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Old 06-09-2021 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
No lateral moves in June. All REs have been to better opportunities.
What are the stats looking like?
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Old 06-09-2021 | 07:12 PM
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Flow me or blow me
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Old 06-09-2021 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by aewhistleblower
Flow me or blow me
Sounds like you’re pretty stuck on staying at Envoy for the long haul no matter how bad it is. You’re not even considering or trying anything else??!!
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Old 06-09-2021 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
nice, glad to hear. There were 2 furloughs in training who quit recently. One for SKW, the other for Sun Country
As long as they didn’t have a payback, they weren’t very invested. Sun Country still a move up. SKW maybe, maybe not, but no matter what it is, if it works for you, then it’s a good move.
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Old 06-09-2021 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
y’all are obviously underestimating the fact that probably 1600 pilots, at least, on the seniority list have their apps out and have gotten no call.

not that people shouldn’t be trying to leave, but you don’t just magically leave. You’re hired elsewhere, or selected rather.

and you can ***** all you want about envoy, but I’d never advocate a lateral move to another regional. Quit flying if that’s your only option. Or stay at envoy and get your time and get out
And most of those airlines with whom the 1600 have applications are just starting to get into hiring. The word is JUST.

A major airline that shall not be named has the schoolhouse full with requals and cross training to other aircraft for those aircraft that have retired.

Word is they will be hiring with classes in September. They almost immediately kick it into high gear. So far, they don’t have new hires in the door.

Those pilots would be foolish to quit today when class dates don’t start for 3 months down the road.
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Old 06-10-2021 | 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by aewhistleblower
Flow me or blow me
Qft.

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Old 06-10-2021 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
Sounds like you’re pretty stuck on staying at Envoy for the long haul no matter how bad it is. You’re not even considering or trying anything else??!!
Hell no! In my case it makes sense to wait for the flow where I currently sit, unless another major calls me.

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Old 06-10-2021 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
Word is they will be hiring with classes in September. They almost immediately kick it into high gear.
Sounds about right. The less classes they do and the bigger they are, the smaller the flow presence because of how it's structured, so naturally they'll avoid doing classes as long as possible before "kicking it into high gear" with a few huge ones to devalue the flow as much as possible.

The question is, why don't they want to staff their regionals? Is this typical AA mismanagement? Compare with Delta where the flow is recognized as the most powerful recruiting tool at the regional level and DALPA is expected to resist.
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Old 06-10-2021 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
Endeavor’s flown isn’t even signed yet and from how it reads, it’s still no guarantee flow. Sounds like Delta can pick and choose if you fit their diversity quota or not, and also determine if Endeavor can afford to lose pilots to the flow..
Lots of incorrect information.
- The flow LOA is signed, in effect and first class is in August.
- The minimum is 20 per month, each month that DAL hires.
- Endeavor can hold back flow pilots, but they receive Delta seniority numbers. The amount of months varies.

The pick and choose you’re referencing is for the LOA requiring 35% of new hires to be from a ALPA DCI carrier. That DAL does have discretion over to an extent. But the 20 a month is part of that 35% quota.
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Old 06-10-2021 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Meow1215
Lots of incorrect information.
- The flow LOA is signed, in effect and first class is in August.
- The minimum is 20 per month, each month that DAL hires.
- Endeavor can hold back flow pilots, but they receive Delta seniority numbers. The amount of months varies.

The pick and choose you’re referencing is for the LOA requiring 35% of new hires to be from a ALPA DCI carrier. That DAL does have discretion over to an extent. But the 20 a month is part of that 35% quota.
Did I read correctly that new hires wouldn't be included in the flow program? If so that would suck, but at least you could count on your seniority going up by 20 a month.
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