People generally come to Envoy because they simply don't know any better.

There are some who Envoy serves a specific purpose (non-current military, rotor transition, Expressjet 6 year FOs), but the vast majority of cadets and street hires only know Envoy has flow and more money than they make as a CFI, barely.

Most first year FOs have no clue about how bad our contract is compared to other regionals. They thought Envoy now was better than Republic or Endeavor in 6 months. They don't realize until it is too late that pay, QOL, and career progression are better at many other places.

This thread is still relevant.

Steer clear of Envoy. Go to PSA and get paid the most, with the most flexible schedules. Unless you really want to fly the 145 out of La Guardia.

Maybe because live close to DFW and flow.
I am considering a come back after 5 years and Envoy could be a good option since I live 40 minutes away from DFW.
Any updates on current hiring, training backup, equipment out of training, bases for new hires? Training is AQP now I heard, is it good?
Thanks!

Training isn't good. Probably one of the weakest training departments in the regionals. No line pilots teaching, all PSI's which come from wildly different backgrounds and never flew the 145/175, let alone at Envoy. You won't get DFW unless you're a cadet CFI.

145 LGA/JFK. Plan on it.

I did initial on the 175 almost a year ago and it wasn't that bad. I've heard the weaker instructors are on the 145.

Alpa gave away only pilots on seniority can teach in sims

It is very much hit and miss. Mostly miss. The first lessons in procedure trainers and sims are all professional sim instructor. Some with a lot of experience some very little. Might or probably not actually flown the plane, but certainly not for Envoy.

Initial seniority in class is cadets, then 121 by time and then age.

Again very much hit or miss what is offered and composition of the class.

If you come back, and have 1000 hours of 121 time, you will be left seat on the 145 commuting to LGA for a special level of hell that is Envoy reserve. It will probably take you a year and a half just to be the bottom guy on the reserve list in DFW.

Go to Skywest... at least they will pay you for your previous time.

100% lies. As usual from you.

Training is fine. You won't fail because of it. Most sims are still with line guys teaching. And they will follow the AQP LOA if you fall behind. If you can't make it through, it's 100% all on you.

False

Also False.

It's basically a self study program. If you've had professional training on a jet anywhere else, it will be abhorrent. If you don't know better, it's just what's normal at envoy, like battered woman syndrome.

I may not have made clear that the first procedure trainer lessons and first sim lessons, about six each are PSI. The last two of both are Envoy line qualified guys that will TRY to iron out what was not covered and reinforced by the PSIs.