Traveler24

Currently putting in apps at regionals. By the different threads here, seems as if there isn’t a single good thing about Envoy. I’m wondering why people still chose to go here? Asking the current pilots what the perk of going to Envoy is that you won’t get at another regional? Thanks.

ENH017

Flow, who knows how long it'll be until you get to AA if you get hired today but its definitely longer than most people should be getting hired at the major the traditional way. If you want to get to AA specifically, the majority of civilian new hires right now come from one of the wholly-owneds. (This isn't even really an Envoy perk, see PSA/Piedmont)

Upgrade, we're literally forcing FOs to the captain seat when they reach FAA minimum times for upgrade. That sounds like a fast upgrade but also keep in mind reserve times vary and many mid-seniority FOs complain about "no man's land" where you're too senior to get called out to fly, but too junior to hold a line. This sounds nice if you're trying to not work, but keep in mind reserve take home pay is about 1900-2300 per month.

I've heard from other regional pilots that our travel benefits are slightly better than the usual regional airline?

Outside of that I really don't know why you would look at Envoy at the moment. Every base we fly out of has other carriers with more competitive pay and better QoL contracts.

Phoenix21

“I’m 24 and I’m a First Officer on the 175”

NoValueAviator

This is the main thing Envoy offers new hires currently.

Cyio

We are not forcing all FO’s anymore. Had 17 I think didn’t get forced this last one.

To be honest, our travel benefits are hard to use. With AA always going oversold it can be a real pain to us domestically.

ParkingatMIA

Unless you end up in an all 145 class

ninerdriver

Recruiting will send you a microfiber cloth for cleaning your aviator sunglasses. The cloth will have a full-color image of an Eagle 175 that you will definitely be awarded if you get hired at Envoy.

See the "future of Envoy is any idiot from ATP" theory.

Helij3t

Coming to Envoy so that I use my sign on bonus to buy a Tesla. Then maybe sometimes be behind on rent.

Just kidding

SilentLurker

Fact! Doug has gone on record numerous time to say he would prefer no airline offer standby travel benefits. Has stated in a nutshell that to be competitive it is offered, but that employees now entitled to it now, but should not. That none-rev/standby travel is an incredible benefit to have, that other industries don't offer this to their employees. He even went on to talk about his banker friend being shocked we get such benefits still today.

AA is one of the biggest airline in the world that Over sells flights, It is strategic. They rather offer a large sum’s of monetary credit to paying passengers.

The above is statement by is factual!

Flight Benefits do sound really good on paper. It draws many cadets to Envoy and PSA. The value of these benefits are strategically being degraded fast. Forcing crew members to move in base. Load factor levels are increasing.

Let's not forget about last minute DH’s!

Hub to Hub is terrible.

Cadets that live in big cities, I personally would stop bragging to your parents about giving them AA travel benefits as well. Toilet paper is more useful!

rld1k

The only thing I find useful is flying relatives that live near podunk airports served by us. Trying to fly hub to hub you might as well start walking