New hire FO’s broke even. Existing guys got the bonus and now that raise that should have come in 2014.

No 10 day posting requirement anymore prior to voting?
No more requirement for a pilot vote on significant CBA changes?

Since when would a 15% change and flow changes be minor changes not requiring 10 day posting and a pilot vote? You really want the precedent of changing flow without the pilots voting, or without winning an arbitration? Get your 50% of all new hires language back.

If I were still there, I’d appreciate the opportunity to vote no on their insufficient pittance offering. They’re bleeding Pilots. Knock off the bandaids.

Your mileage may vary

You’re comparing our blended rates with what you’re getting on both the 145 and the 170/175. You can get a more accurate picture of what we’re getting and the gap between them when you compare side by side what the hard rates are. Also, as we start parking the 200s (whenever that’s going to be) and/or taking delivery of more 900s as well as the rest of your 700s, that blended rate is going to increase more towards the hard CRJ 700/900 rate.

I’ve attached the current hard rates for your review.

I would have voted no if given the chance.

Mad. :mad:

If the CA pay is as bad as initial indications suggest, nothing would’ve been better. At least then we’d have the implicit leverage of being the lowest paid regional airline pilots. Hilariously though, the people complaining loudest on the line are the same ones who were saying “meh we should’ve taken whatever they offered, union asked for too much.” Really sad they listened to these guys, who were always a vocal minority.

Who are these clowns? Ive never met anyone who thinks this.

Do you guys not understand pay banding? I see so many complaints that only the most senior guys will get the biggest benefit. It’s not that the union sold everyone down the river, but the contract has had pay banding for at least 5 or 6 years maybe more. Expecting the company to say ******* it to pay banding and pay everyone large rj rates is not reasonable. I get the frustration but I just assumed people knew what pay banding was, it seems like this is the first time people are hearing about it.