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MochaSwirl 07-24-2019 03:09 PM

The calm before the storm
 
I’ve got my popcorn. This will be good.























Oh, we got raises. Kinda.

Squirrel27 07-24-2019 03:20 PM

We did not get the AIP. Not even close to it. Captain pay increase "up to 15%" according to recruiting. That is NOT what PSA got. And they have way better soft rules.

Varsity 07-24-2019 03:23 PM

Yep.

We got *******ed.

MochaSwirl 07-24-2019 03:28 PM

This is what happens when you rush things and say “Oh hurry up and just take what we can get”

So to all who were on that train. This is what you get when we could’ve gotten much more.

No increased flow for you new hires, a small bump in raise and some other things....

This is crumbs when we could’ve gotten the whole pie.

Now before I sound like a negative Nancy, am I thankful? Certainly. But sometimes it’s not good to rush certain things.

Naviator 07-24-2019 03:42 PM

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The article said up to 15% so this is the max we will get paid. Senior CAs on the higher pay band will get paid more than PSA, everyone else, NOPE!

Folove 07-24-2019 04:10 PM

Captains got the short end of the stick. I support my fellow colleagues. FO definitely needed a raise, but CAs are in the hot seat. We are the ones who sometimes give free IOE when flying with guys/gals who aren’t very proficient. It’s frustrating to say the least.

EnyFlyr 07-24-2019 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by Folove (Post 2858608)
Captains got the short end of the stick. I support my fellow colleagues. FO definitely needed a raise, but CAs are in the hot seat. We are the ones who sometimes give free IOE when flying with guys/gals who aren’t very proficient. It’s frustrating to say the least.

FO’s broke even, they are taking away the retention bonus. Do the math, comes out to about same.

Phoenix21 07-24-2019 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by Naviator (Post 2858577)
The article said up to 15% so this is the max we will get paid. Senior CAs on the higher pay band will get paid more than PSA, everyone else, NOPE!

What’s this pay band thing folks keep mentioning? How does it work?

Squirrel27 07-24-2019 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by EnyFlyr (Post 2858610)
FO’s broke even, they are taking away the retention bonus. Do the math, comes out to about same.


Where did you see they are taking away the retention bonuses?

dera 07-24-2019 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by Squirrel27 (Post 2858612)
Where did you see they are taking away the retention bonuses?

That's what they did at other WOs.


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