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Varsity 07-25-2019 01:55 PM
Why did ALPA national send those analysts that spent all that time proving to the company that we had to earn more than PSA to be equal to PSA?


Just to take this ****? :mad:

LineUpAndPay 07-25-2019 02:29 PM
Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 2859167)
From what I can see, no capt got more than 12% or less than 10% but no one got 15% mgt posted
Might want to crunch some more numbers, a certain always forgotten group for the last few years got 15.9%

buddies8 07-25-2019 02:41 PM
Which group would that be.

LineUpAndPay 07-25-2019 03:33 PM
Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 2859312)
Which group would that be.
Payband C at 6 years is 15.9% 80.94-93.80
Payband C at 7 years is 16% 82.55-95.83

havick206 07-25-2019 06:04 PM
Originally Posted by LineUpAndPay (Post 2859335)
Payband C at 6 years is 15.9% 80.94-93.80
Payband C at 7 years is 16% 82.55-95.83
In theory no one but lifers should see Pay band C 7 year CA rates according to recruiting.

dera 07-25-2019 06:19 PM
Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2859398)
In theory no one but lifers should see Pay band C 7 year CA rates according to recruiting.
Most junior Pay band C guy is a 9/2014 hire.

havick206 07-25-2019 06:38 PM
Originally Posted by dera (Post 2859401)
Most junior Pay band C guy is a 9/2014 hire.
I was more referring to advertised flow of 6 years.

3EngineTaxi 07-25-2019 07:18 PM
Where have these rates been posted or published? How does everyone seem to know the details already?

bigtime209 07-25-2019 08:21 PM
Originally Posted by 3EngineTaxi (Post 2859436)
Where have these rates been posted or published? How does everyone seem to know the details already?
They haven't been published yet. You have to pick up the phone and talk to a rep to get any additional info at this point. The rates are PSA rates. BUT, they are not the PSA blended rates. So our CAs on Pay Band B will make less than PSA while CAs on Pay Band C will make a tad more. In essence, you will make less than your PSA counterpart up until your last few months at Envoy.

dera 07-25-2019 08:27 PM
Originally Posted by bigtime209 (Post 2859465)
In essence, you will make less than your PSA counterpart up until your last few months at Envoy.
So you believe in the 5 year flow for all new hires?


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