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SkylineAviation 08-03-2019 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Jumpseatcrawler (Post 2864202)
I had a video interview and just moved to the next step of screening with another company. Does anyone know what happens if I leave envoy and they still have not paid retro pay? Will that be the last “envoy’d” farewell? Or will they actually do the right thing and send you a check home?

Those of us who flowed to AA before the deal was made but who are in the window of the retro pay are being told we’ll get at least a prorated portion of what’s owed. I’ll believe it when I see it. I would assume it would apply to those going other than AA too but I don’t have a real answer.

Cujo665 08-03-2019 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by SkylineAviation (Post 2864230)
Those of us who flowed to AA before the deal was made but who are in the window of the retro pay are being told we’ll get at least a prorated portion of what’s owed. I’ll believe it when I see it. I would assume it would apply to those going other than AA too but I don’t have a real answer.

When we did contract changes previously, pilots who were long gone but on property during the retro period covered in the new changes did get paid.....

mketch11 08-04-2019 05:20 AM

Did we agree to pay raises with no hard date of implementation? What a joke.

EnyFlyr 08-04-2019 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by mketch11 (Post 2864572)
Did we agree to pay raises with no hard date of implementation? What a joke.

The way I understand it these are effective June 1st and then 20 hrs backpay/extra pay each month the company takes to get everyone “up to speed”

buddies8 08-04-2019 06:05 AM

If not paid the retro by Sept 30 then they pay 20 hours at new rate for 4 months instead of the original retro pay, as I understand it.
Now run the numbers and whichever is the cheapest to mgt is what they will do. My math shows retro pay cheaper than 20 per month. So I imagine last pay check September will have the retro pay. Dont expect it sooner.

mketch11 08-04-2019 07:22 AM

Just saying that pay increases could be delayed indefinitely per the LOA so long as either retro pay or the 20-15hrs credit is applied at some point. Just getting tired of the loose wording on all these contracts we agree to.

MEGAFUPM 08-04-2019 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by mketch11 (Post 2864623)
Just saying that pay increases could be delayed indefinitely per the LOA so long as either retro pay or the 20-15hrs credit is applied at some point. Just getting tired of the loose wording on all these contracts we agree to.

Might want to go back and read the LOA. The new pay scales are effective June 1, 2019. The company has 30 days from the day of signing (July 25) to determine if they can pay the actual retroactive pay, and if not then they will pay the block rate, both due no later than September 30. Now, as others have said the company is just going to determine whichever is cheaper and go with that.

mketch11 08-04-2019 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM (Post 2864627)
Might want to go back and read the LOA. The new pay scales are effective June 1, 2019. The company has 30 days from the day of signing (July 25) to determine if they can pay the actual retroactive pay, and if not then they will pay the block rate, both due no later than September 30. Now, as others have said the company is just going to determine whichever is cheaper and go with that.

The reason I said that is because I did go back and read it.
“If the implementation of new rates is delayed, then such payments will be made on a monthly basis until the new rates are fully implemented.”

MEGAFUPM 08-04-2019 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by mketch11 (Post 2864639)
The reason I said that is because I did go back and read it.
“If the implementation of new rates is delayed, then such payments will be made on a monthly basis until the new rates are fully implemented.”

That's referencing the company paying either the block rate or retroactive. The new rates are effective June 1.

dera 08-04-2019 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by mketch11 (Post 2864639)
The reason I said that is because I did go back and read it.
“If the implementation of new rates is delayed, then such payments will be made on a monthly basis until the new rates are fully implemented.”

"No later than". Read the damn letter.
I know reading is hard, but at least try.


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