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Houpilot2001 07-27-2019 12:10 PM

New LOAs out.
 
Check your emails.

Let the games begin

moon 07-27-2019 12:18 PM

This is a dud. What was the point of any negotiations if we were just going to cave in the end for an extra 5 flows for a few months. To go from the AIP to this is extremely disappointing. At least we will all be under appreciated by the company for 2.5 months less I guess.

29Eleven 07-27-2019 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by moon (Post 2860300)
This is a dud. What was the point of any negotiations if we were just going to cave in the end for an extra 5 flows for a few months. To go from the AIP to this is extremely disappointing. At least we will all be under appreciated by the company for 2.5 months less I guess.


With the lack of flows next month it’s pretty much a wash.

mketch11 07-27-2019 12:28 PM

FOs made out about even, Junior Captains get a small raise, Lifers get the most as they likely deserve at this point. Reserve enhancements in the wind, retro pay short changed, and a temporary flow increase assuming AA hires. Man, without the Union, the pilot group could have just accepted the rates that AAG offered on day one and made out better than this. Oh and the non-union PSIs get a raise. Sweet

29Eleven 07-27-2019 12:33 PM

PSA still making more than us hourly. A 4 year Envoy CA for example will make $6.46 less per hour. Something else PSA got that we didn’t:

All credit on a pilot's schedule between 75 and 85 hours paid at 125%
All credit on a pilot's schedule above 85 hours paid at 150%

Oh and the retro pay got fleeced as well. Went from May 15th to June 1st...unless it’s cheaper for the Company to just give you 15-35 hours of pay.

So glad we held out for months, it really paid off.

GoFast8 07-27-2019 12:33 PM

Am i understanding this correctly?
Im probably thinking to much into this.
For FO’s

New hire - 1 YOS = $50.21
1 YOS - 2 YOS = $50.21
Then on the day you have been with company for 2 years it goes to $51.19

Kinda confusing for a new hire to be paid at 1 YOS rate when they havent been with the company for a year.

Pedro4President 07-27-2019 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by GoFast8 (Post 2860306)
Am i understanding this correctly?
Im probably thinking to much into this.
For FO’s

New hire - 1 YOS = $50.21
1 YOS - 2 YOS = $50.21
Then on the day you have been with company for 2 years it goes to $51.19

Kinda confusing for a new hire to be paid at 1 YOS rate when they havent been with the company for a year.

Yes not as confusing as getting paid year 3,4,5 then back to 3 when upgrading.

GoFast8 07-27-2019 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2860317)
Yes not as confusing as getting paid year 3,4,5 then back to 3 when upgrading.

Hahaha true! Thanks for the conf.

fatman 07-27-2019 01:25 PM

Can anyone post it for those of us that don’t have access to it at the moment?

rld1k 07-27-2019 01:32 PM

Vote out all yes voters


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