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moon 09-11-2019 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2885685)
"Min pay" on reserve is 3.75 hours per day.
75 hour guarantee, 20 days of work.

Min pay on reserve is 75 hours per month. There's no min day pay on reserve there's a difference there.
Each day is valued at 3.9 hours but it's not a min day. Only matters if you can get a drop, vacation, sick, or training.

dera 09-11-2019 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by moon (Post 2885692)
Min pay on reserve is 75 hours per month. There's no min day pay on reserve there's a difference there.
Each day is valued at 3.9 hours but it's not a min day. Only matters if you can get a drop, vacation, sick, or training.

You won't break guarantee on reserve, so "4 days for 2 hours of pay" isn't a concern for reserves.

pitchattitude 09-11-2019 05:23 PM

While on reserve I had a two day 12 hour trip followed next sequence by a five day 10 hour trip. Awful tough to break guarantee on reserve like that. And as pointed out, no daily guarantee, just the 75 for the month. You can bust your butt for a couple days, but a few slow days makes it all for naught.

slantgolf 09-11-2019 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2885685)
"Min pay" on reserve is 3.75 hours per day.
75 hour guarantee, 20 days of work.

Right... but for trips. As a line holder its common to have lost days and inefficient trips that are 4 days away from home for 9 hours pay.

pitchattitude 09-11-2019 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by slantgolf (Post 2885735)
Right... but for trips. As a line holder its common to have lost days and inefficient trips that are 4 days away from home for 9 hours pay.

Eh. I wouldn’t say “common” for a 9 hour four day on a line. That would require all the other trips to be 16 plus hours and that would be a 19 day, 72 hour line. While I agree many lines are certainly not very good, most are not that bad.

dera 09-11-2019 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2885720)
While on reserve I had a two day 12 hour trip followed next sequence by a five day 10 hour trip. Awful tough to break guarantee on reserve like that. And as pointed out, no daily guarantee, just the 75 for the month. You can bust your butt for a couple days, but a few slow days makes it all for naught.

That's reserve pretty much anywhere. Unless the airline is disastrously understaffed, which brings other QOL issues.
Thankfully we have rules that prevent the worst abuse of reserves.

dera 09-11-2019 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by slantgolf (Post 2885735)
Right... but for trips. As a line holder its common to have lost days and inefficient trips that are 4 days away from home for 9 hours pay.

Not common at all. Actually, almost unheard of.
Some 7-10 hour 3 day-trips (which you can most of the time trade away from to a much more productive 4-day), but the 7-9 hour 4-days in open time are scraps from trips where people pick up the turns from the first or last day.

moon 09-11-2019 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2885716)
You won't break guarantee on reserve, so "4 days for 2 hours of pay" isn't a concern for reserves.

That's the point min day pay would be every day on reserve is 3.9 hours so if you flew anything beyond 3.9 hours it would be above guarantee. So no min day pay just monthly guarantee.

buddies8 09-11-2019 08:11 PM

Reserve is 75 hours 12 days off. You want to break guarantee on reserve not going to happen unless you pick up open time of your days off. Open time is on top of guarantee pay.

dera 09-11-2019 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 2885810)
Reserve is 75 hours 12 days off. You want to break guarantee on reserve not going to happen unless you pick up open time of your days off. Open time is on top of guarantee pay.

11, not 12.


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