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Timbird 09-07-2019 06:48 PM

Back pay from June must be paid by Sept 30th. There is nothing that says the company has to increase our pay by Sept 30th. Read the last paragraph of the LOA.

Pedro4President 09-07-2019 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by Timbird (Post 2883190)
Back pay from June (JULY AND AUGUST) must be paid by Sept 30th. There is nothing that says the company has to increase our pay by Sept 30th. Read the last paragraph of the LOA.

Fixed it for you.

UncreativeUser 09-08-2019 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by Captian Open (Post 2883139)
I heard management doesn’t care about the September 30th deadline and they’re taking their time manually correcting our pay sheets to give us the actual difference.



Yeah ok buddy


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LowvalueFO 09-16-2019 04:21 PM

Pay rates have been updated , next paycheck will reflect new rates.

Cyio 09-16-2019 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by LowvalueFO (Post 2888408)
Pay rates have been updated , next paycheck will reflect new rates.

Including backpay?

dera 09-16-2019 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2888471)
Including backpay?

That's a separate issue. You'll get it when you get it.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's paid on the 30th.
My sources say the company honestly tries to work on this to get it all sorted by the 30th.
Now that the new rates are implemented, our August overages will be paid at the new rate on the 30th.

EnyFlyr 09-16-2019 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2888499)
That's a separate issue. You'll get it when you get it.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's paid on the 30th.
My sources say the company honestly tries to work on this to get it all sorted by the 30th.
Now that the new rates are implemented, our August overages will be paid at the new rate on the 30th.

My pay sheet for August is showing old rates though. So like you said, it’ll have to be a whole separate issue for all 4 months of back pay

NoValueAviator 09-18-2019 11:35 AM

What a mess. If we had one pilot as incompetent as our back office people/mgmt, we’d have crashed a plane by now.

I could learn the system myself, calculate the back pay for every individual pilot manually and enter the new rates between trips. Probably in less than 8 hours.

pitchattitude 09-18-2019 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2889371)
What a mess. If we had one pilot as incompetent as our back office people/mgmt, we’d have crashed a plane by now.

I could learn the system myself, calculate the back pay and I enter the new rates between trips. Probably in less than 8 hours.

I agree the issues were likely figured out in much less time, but the company was still not going to pay up a day earlier than the had to. That was a fail of the negotiation of the LOA.

pitchattitude 09-22-2019 07:42 PM

Per the union email just sent:

Retroactive Pay Methodology

The company has informed the Association that in regards to retroactive pay referenced in the "Implementation of New Pay Scales & Retroactive Pay" LOA, they will be calculating retroactive pay based on pilots' actual hours for months that retro pay is owed. The company has also communicated that by the end of the month, appropriate pay rates will be implemented and applicable retroactive pay will be paid out. This action will comply with the signed LOAs.


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