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What are you guys doing? The pay raise is no longer a discussion it is done. Now is the time to get new hires in so the flow is not going to slow down. Time to get new hires into Envoy!
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
(Post 2912219)
Says every overbearing, know it all FO. :rolleyes:
(not saying YOU are that guy, but the VERY FEW FO’s I had issues with when I was with Eagle were universally weak, yet overbearing A-type personalities. Thankfully, the overwhelming majority were not, and were awesome pilots and people, but there were a few memorable douchebag FO’s who tried mightily to overpower me, to no avail. Remember too that you were once that brand new FO who needed babysitting by your captains for your first few hundred hours in type - or at the airline. New captains on type definitely need and want help and assistance from their experienced FO’s for their first few hundred hours in type, but don’t need or want the FO’s to take over the operation and be the quasi captains. The company nor the FAA condones that.) And you are naive if you think “merit” at any company isn’t based on a good old boys club system. That system upgrades some of the most unqualified, inept pilots flying for any given company - usually a corporate or charter type of operation. If you’re reading this and you like putting people in their place and making sure they stay in their lane etc etc., try this alternative on for size: “I know you’re trying to help, but I’m ultimately responsible for that.” |
Originally Posted by dk104444
(Post 2912763)
What are you guys doing? The pay raise is no longer a discussion it is done. Now is the time to get new hires in so the flow is not going to slow down. Time to get new hires into Envoy!
Our “goal” isn’t to get pilots here. It should be to help new hires make the best choice for themselves. Nothing sours a new hire faster than learning recruiters/ management weren’t completely honest. |
Originally Posted by dk104444
(Post 2912763)
What are you guys doing? The pay raise is no longer a discussion it is done. Now is the time to get new hires in so the flow is not going to slow down. Time to get new hires into Envoy!
The choice is solely in their hands. |
How many hours can a new hire expect to fly first year? Hoping for ORD base.
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Originally Posted by Skigsfly
(Post 2912924)
How many hours can a new hire expect to fly first year? Hoping for ORD base.
Should easily get 750 or so durning second year if you get anything but LGA. |
Ouch only 200-300 first year.. So expect lots of sitting on reserve for the first year? Which airframe would you ideally fly more first and second year?
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Originally Posted by Skigsfly
(Post 2912975)
Ouch only 200-300 first year.. So expect lots of sitting on reserve for the first year? Which airframe would you ideally fly more first and second year?
Expect the absolute worst case scenario. Be able to accept the plane and base you don’t want and plan to move or have a crappy commute. Expect to be on reserve for six months. Repeat when you make captain. If you expect the worst and it is better than you expected then you aren’t disappointed. |
Originally Posted by Skigsfly
(Post 2912975)
Ouch only 200-300 first year.. So expect lots of sitting on reserve for the first year? Which airframe would you ideally fly more first and second year?
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
(Post 2912994)
It has been variable. There has been a lot of shifting around and people hired a few classes apart to the same airframe and base have seen vastly different experiences.
Expect the absolute worst case scenario. Be able to accept the plane and base you don’t want and plan to move or have a crappy commute. Expect to be on reserve for six months. Repeat when you make captain. If you expect the worst and it is better than you expected then you aren’t disappointed. |
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