Come to Envoy?
10-19-2019 | 07:51 AM
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10-19-2019 | 08:08 AM
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Do not come here for the flow. If you are coming to make captain, that is fine, but again expect the next 18 months or so commuting to reserve if you’re local to DFW. Maybe hold a line in ORD sooner.
Have you considered Spirt?
10-19-2019 | 08:37 AM
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You would be far better off at an ULCC. If you need to come here for recently passed fed rides or something that is one thing, but I would jump out ASAP. Coming in as you are will look like forced upgrades, crappy commutes and perpetual reserve.
If you live in New York or Chicago it will be far more bearable. Lastly, flow for you would look like 5+ years at the low end, close to 9 at the high end.
If you live in New York or Chicago it will be far more bearable. Lastly, flow for you would look like 5+ years at the low end, close to 9 at the high end.
10-19-2019 | 08:48 AM
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I’m on the 175 now but I am upgrading to the 145 in December.
10-19-2019 | 02:35 PM
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Why do you choose the 175 as a new hire when you know you will be forced to upgrade to the 145? Seems like you’re just making life hard for yourself. No?
10-19-2019 | 03:15 PM
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Also to the OP
Low seniority captain life is not fun. 2-2.5 years reserve at most junior base... longer for DFW.
Pretty much any QOL goes out the window due to staffing, getting JM, or just additional flying.
Unpredictable proffers for standby and RAP.
Fly with 50hr FOs that know nothing (some are great) and 900 hr FOs that think they are the captain and almost no in-between.
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10-19-2019 | 03:31 PM
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In new hire class I was offered a seat on an aircraft based in Dallas (home) or an aircraft based in NYC.
I chose the one in Dallas.
Had they offered 145 Dallas or 175 ORD, I’d have still chosen DALLAS.
Even if it’s only a temporary convenience, it’s a convenience nonetheless. If it’s “harder” because I have to go to training on a new aircraft (that I’ve already flown for 3 years) the simple answer is no. I don’t think it is. Training events are a big part of this career.
10-19-2019 | 03:54 PM
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Haven’t you asked me this before? My answer is the same.
In new hire class I was offered a seat on an aircraft based in Dallas (home) or an aircraft based in NYC.
I chose the one in Dallas.
Had they offered 145 Dallas or 175 ORD, I’d have still chosen DALLAS.
Even if it’s only a temporary convenience, it’s a convenience nonetheless. If it’s “harder” because I have to go to training on a new aircraft (that I’ve already flown for 3 years) the simple answer is no. I don’t think it is. Training events are a big part of this career.
In new hire class I was offered a seat on an aircraft based in Dallas (home) or an aircraft based in NYC.
I chose the one in Dallas.
Had they offered 145 Dallas or 175 ORD, I’d have still chosen DALLAS.
Even if it’s only a temporary convenience, it’s a convenience nonetheless. If it’s “harder” because I have to go to training on a new aircraft (that I’ve already flown for 3 years) the simple answer is no. I don’t think it is. Training events are a big part of this career.
10-19-2019 | 04:09 PM
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It wasn’t any different at XJT. “Hey I’m number 7 in the bucket and can’t even qualify for any flight longer than 38 minutes before timing out. Can I catch this last flight home so I don’t have to stay another night?”
Denied.
Due to coverage. 😂
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