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10-25-2019 | 08:50 PM
#42
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Says every overbearing, know it all FO. 
(not saying YOU are that guy, but the VERY FEW FO’s I had issues with when I was with Eagle were universally weak, yet overbearing A-type personalities. Thankfully, the overwhelming majority were not, and were awesome pilots and people, but there were a few memorable douchebag FO’s who tried mightily to overpower me, to no avail. Remember too that you were once that brand new FO who needed babysitting by your captains for your first few hundred hours in type - or at the airline. New captains on type definitely need and want help and assistance from their experienced FO’s for their first few hundred hours in type, but don’t need or want the FO’s to take over the operation and be the quasi captains. The company nor the FAA condones that.)
And you are naive if you think “merit” at any company isn’t based on a good old boys club system. That system upgrades some of the most unqualified, inept pilots flying for any given company - usually a corporate or charter type of operation.
(not saying YOU are that guy, but the VERY FEW FO’s I had issues with when I was with Eagle were universally weak, yet overbearing A-type personalities. Thankfully, the overwhelming majority were not, and were awesome pilots and people, but there were a few memorable douchebag FO’s who tried mightily to overpower me, to no avail. Remember too that you were once that brand new FO who needed babysitting by your captains for your first few hundred hours in type - or at the airline. New captains on type definitely need and want help and assistance from their experienced FO’s for their first few hundred hours in type, but don’t need or want the FO’s to take over the operation and be the quasi captains. The company nor the FAA condones that.)
And you are naive if you think “merit” at any company isn’t based on a good old boys club system. That system upgrades some of the most unqualified, inept pilots flying for any given company - usually a corporate or charter type of operation.
If you’re reading this and you like putting people in their place and making sure they stay in their lane etc etc., try this alternative on for size: “I know you’re trying to help, but I’m ultimately responsible for that.”
10-26-2019 | 05:26 AM
#43
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Our “goal” isn’t to get pilots here. It should be to help new hires make the best choice for themselves.
Nothing sours a new hire faster than learning recruiters/ management weren’t completely honest.
10-26-2019 | 06:18 AM
#44
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The choice is solely in their hands.
10-26-2019 | 10:02 AM
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Expect the absolute worst case scenario. Be able to accept the plane and base you don’t want and plan to move or have a crappy commute. Expect to be on reserve for six months. Repeat when you make captain.
If you expect the worst and it is better than you expected then you aren’t disappointed.
10-26-2019 | 11:04 AM
#49
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Yeah man what he said above. Reserve is literally luck of the draw. There were January hires this year that got the golden ticket DFW E75 FO, and did 1 month of reserve. I also had a buddy who did over a year of rsv in LGA. You’ll never know until you go through it and hit the line. Then you’ll have a better idea
10-26-2019 | 11:32 AM
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It has been variable. There has been a lot of shifting around and people hired a few classes apart to the same airframe and base have seen vastly different experiences.
Expect the absolute worst case scenario. Be able to accept the plane and base you don’t want and plan to move or have a crappy commute. Expect to be on reserve for six months. Repeat when you make captain.
If you expect the worst and it is better than you expected then you aren’t disappointed.
Expect the absolute worst case scenario. Be able to accept the plane and base you don’t want and plan to move or have a crappy commute. Expect to be on reserve for six months. Repeat when you make captain.
If you expect the worst and it is better than you expected then you aren’t disappointed.
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