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Old 02-22-2020, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ParkingatMIA View Post
makes sense, those ORD pilots are a strange bunch
Yeah voting to let the pilot group have a say in 10-30% pay raises and a flow increase is pretty strange indeed.
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Old 02-23-2020, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM View Post
Same with the New York page not letting non New York pilots on. Not really sure why. There's a lot of good information on all the pages that's not always cross posted. Seems really dumb to do.
keeping in “in base” allows the reps to get a sense of the body of their pilots without calling each one individually on the phone like I did.

It originally was called EGL ALPA LEC121 Pilots, but national had hissy fits... so they all morphed into just the base. NY Eagle Pilots is what stuck. At the time we had 535 pilots in base and over 3/4 were on our page.
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Old 02-23-2020, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM View Post
Yeah voting to let the pilot group have a say in 10-30% pay raises and a flow increase is pretty strange indeed.
you need a rep with balls to submit a change to the by-laws to require pilot votes be much more clearly defined... and other reps that won’t be swayed by the lawyers. The ALPA lawyers are great at telling pilots, see... it says right here any significant change to wages or working conditions requires a pilot vote.... then at MEC meetings telling the reps that they (the MEC) get to define “significant.”

it allows the MEC chairman the ability to make quick grabs when the company puts something on the table that if a vote were required could result in the company changing their mind before it’s done...
kinda like the last AIP the company yanked back.

Good points and bad points. Mostly bad in my opinion from years of observation. Teamsters requires pilot votes on ALL changes to the CBA, not just wages and work rules. An MOU/LOA is only for clarifying existing ratified language, not making changes. It’s a better way in my opinion.
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Old 02-28-2020, 05:01 PM
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Is psa looking at a dfw base? Saw some psa people looking around at crew rooms.
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Old 02-28-2020, 11:33 PM
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Is psa looking at a dfw base? Saw some psa people looking around at crew rooms.
They’ll probably agree to a pay cut in exchange for stealing our crew .room
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Old 02-29-2020, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Dman2141 View Post
Is psa looking at a dfw base? Saw some psa people looking around at crew rooms.
All the “PSA having a DFW crew base” seem to be coming from you. It’s probably going to happen when all the WOs get integrated to the mainline seniority list. In the meantime you will have to accept that you can see DFW on some occasional through flying.
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Old 02-29-2020, 05:58 AM
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All the “PSA having a DFW crew base” seem to be coming from you. It’s probably going to happen when all the WOs get integrated to the mainline seniority list. In the meantime you will have to accept that you can see DFW on some occasional through flying.
Yes one list and 2nd year FO pay for all WO captains with 16% direct contributions coming your way soon.
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Old 02-29-2020, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by But seriously View Post
They’ll probably agree to a pay cut in exchange for stealing our crew .room
I wouldn’t be surprised...
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Yes one list and 2nd year FO pay for all WO captains with 16% direct contributions coming your way soon.
Any day now 😂
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Any day now 😂
Don’t hold your breath. In addition, you wouldn’t like the terms a deal like that came with.
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