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Originally Posted by Tyrion
(Post 2953346)
From my understanding, Skywest, Republic, Endeavor, Expressjet, TSA, GoJet, and Compass to name a few. Some I know for certain, others, I'm pretty sure, but could be wrong about a detail here or there.
Or if you trade into lower value trips? Or MA's? Or sick calls if you have no accrued sick time? Or if you cancel a flight because of a deferrable MEL item? Quick fact: No, they don't. |
Originally Posted by dera
(Post 2953348)
You're saying that those airlines pay you for dropped trips?
Or if you trade into lower value trips? Or MA's? Or sick calls if you have no accrued sick time? Or if you cancel a flight because of a deferrable MEL item? Quick fact: No, they don't. If you are removed from a flight because you have a 7 day conflict, or you are approaching a flying hour lookback limit, you still get paid at those other places. If you are removed from a flight because scheduling opted to use a reserve so that the flight wasn't delayed, you still get paid for that flight for it's full value, regardless of what happened with the rest of the sequence. It's a huge difference. |
Originally Posted by Tyrion
(Post 2953351)
If you are removed from a flight because you have a 7 day conflict, or you are approaching a flying hour lookback limit, you still get paid at those other places. If you are removed from a flight because scheduling opted to use a reserve so that the flight wasn't delayed, you still get paid for that flight for it's full value, regardless of what happened with the rest of the sequence.
It's a huge difference. Cancelled, and 12 hours of credit becomes an unscheduled overnight and a 2 hour deadhead? We get paid for 12 hours. Assigned to cover someone else's flying, and 12 hours becomes 15 hours? We get paid for 15 hours. |
Originally Posted by dragongoliath
(Post 2953274)
Do you live in base? Do you have weekends off? Are you in the 175? 14-15 days off including the OT you pick up? Yes Sometimes Yes Yes Or a very senior captain possibly lifer, either way a new hire will not see something like this, specially if they get the 145. |
Originally Posted by Tyrion
(Post 2953351)
Those are caused by the pilot.
If you are removed from a flight because you have a 7 day conflict, or you are approaching a flying hour lookback limit, you still get paid at those other places. If you are removed from a flight because scheduling opted to use a reserve so that the flight wasn't delayed, you still get paid for that flight for it's full value, regardless of what happened with the rest of the sequence. It's a huge difference. Let's go back to what you said. OT can and is still be offset by deductions. There are even cute little examples shown in section 3 |
Originally Posted by Chato
(Post 2953384)
You have to be either a very senior FO who is about to get displaced to the 145 or possibly ORD reserve in the 175, in which case your days off will be reduced to 11 and min credit of 75 AND you’ll be commuting
Or a very senior captain possibly lifer, either way a new hire will not see something like this, specially if they get the 145. |
Originally Posted by dera
(Post 2953405)
A very senior FO would not get displaced to the 145. The very senior FOs have been displacing to the 175, causing all sorts of havoc at the bottom of the 175 CA list.
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Originally Posted by dera
(Post 2953404)
Do you understand why I gave those specific examples?
Let's go back to what you said.
Originally Posted by dera
(Post 2953404)
I'll give you a hint. Those are the only reasons when OT does not go over your monthly guarantee. So it's never "offset by deductions" unless it's caused by the pilot.
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You can lose OT pay if it carries over into the next month and touches a reserve day on your next month's bid and gets recoded as voluntary reserve flying (flying fly free).
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Originally Posted by Tyrion
(Post 2953463)
Yes, because you read the wrong part of the contract and don't know what you are talking about. There are 660 pages of company friendly caveats...
I'll give you a hint. Continue reading to the part that says, "If a reserve pilot flies awarded open time on days off and subsequently has a 30-in-7 day conflict in the same calendar month, the amount of flying from which it was necessary to remove the reserve pilot in order to resolve the 30-in-7 day conflict may not be credited above guarantee." Think how OT is awarded for reserves, and what restrictions they have. How do you think this situation would occur? Pay close attention to the "same calendar month" part. It's pretty important. |
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