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FUPMEagle 02-14-2020 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 2976836)
that’s a lie.

2600-200 = 2400.

​​​​​​2400/20 = 120 months = 10 years.
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shinydiscoballs 02-14-2020 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by Eccothedolphin (Post 2976729)
Would it be wise to leave a ULCC like spirit for envoys direct captain? While the pay is great I realisticly would not be upgrading for a few years out and then I would be a reserve captain. Would it be better for me to leave now, get the PIC time, and if things dont work out atleast I have a flow in backpocket? Or am I talking crazy talk? Note I do not have the 1k turbine PIC time.

Strong rumor has it, that all the WO captains will be making 2nd year AA FO pay with 16% direct contributions; with that being said I think it will be a marvelous idea for you to come and join us at Envoy. QOL I admit is absolutely horrible but I think, that will change as we now have a very strong Union, even more craftier then before. I personally turned 2 CJO's with really profitable ACMI's, because in the long run we all dream about being in a Legacy like AA.

FUPMEagle 02-14-2020 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by shinydiscoballs (Post 2976930)
Strong rumor has it, that all the WO captains will be making 2nd year AA FO pay with 16% direct contributions; with that being said I think it will be a marvelous idea for you to come and join us at Envoy. QOL I admit is absolutely horrible but I think, that will change as we now have a very strong Union, even more craftier then before. I personally turned 2 CJO's with really profitable ACMI's, because in the long run we all dream about being in a Legacy like AA.

Nice trolling

Cyio 02-14-2020 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by shinydiscoballs (Post 2976930)
Strong rumor has it, that all the WO captains will be making 2nd year AA FO pay with 16% direct contributions; with that being said I think it will be a marvelous idea for you to come and join us at Envoy. QOL I admit is absolutely horrible but I think, that will change as we now have a very strong Union, even more craftier then before. I personally turned 2 CJO's with really profitable ACMI's, because in the long run we all dream about being in a Legacy like AA.

oh god. Just when I thought we were done with ThKooj.

dera 02-14-2020 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by FUPMEagle (Post 2976927)
2600-200 = 2400.

​​​​​​2400/20 = 120 months = 10 years.
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2600? Come on. At least have your numbers right.

CLE to IAH 02-14-2020 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by FUPMEagle (Post 2976927)
2600-200 = 2400.

​​​​​​2400/20 = 120 months = 10 years.
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thanks for proving my point. Your math is dishonest and you know it.

FUPMEagle 02-14-2020 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 2976981)
thanks for proving my point. Your math is dishonest and you know it.

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Current number is 2411, by the time this person is hired and goes to training there will be roughly 2600.

2400-200 = 2200/20 = 110 months or 9 years 2.5 months. Point is that it is pointless to come here for the flow alone.

dera 02-14-2020 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by FUPMEagle (Post 2976987)
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Current number is 2411, by the time this person is hired and goes to training there will be roughly 2600.

2400-200 = 2200/20 = 110 months or 9 years 2.5 months. Point is that it is pointless to come here for the flow alone.

Again, your math is wrong. Dude, you need to do your homework about the flow.
You're saying if we have 3000 pilots it takes 2800/20=140 months to flow?

Chato 02-14-2020 02:37 PM

Alpa just put out a list with estimated flow times. Most junior guy 2411 is about 9.9 years away.

skyemiles2 02-14-2020 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by Chato (Post 2977001)
Alpa just put out a list with estimated flow times. Most junior guy 2411 is about 9.9 years away.

That math assumes everyone stays, though.

It’s not 10 years. It’s not 5 years either.


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