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highfarfast 02-24-2020 06:17 PM
Originally Posted by bigtime209 (Post 2983316)
It took Dera awhile to figure out that Envoy isn't the greatest thing since sliced bread and to kinda start acting like a line pilot instead of a huge management sympathizer. But it seems like he's slowly starting to figure it out. Envoy will eventually beat it out of anyone that's on the frontlines long enough.
I’m biting my tongue so hard I may bleed to death...

AV8R72 02-24-2020 06:37 PM
Originally Posted by dera (Post 2983189)
The LGA guys can comment because they know better, you can think of it as a very high priority standby. But if a plane is full, you are not riding on it.
I never had an issue getting a confirmed seat if I did as the LOA says and book my A12 ticket 7 days out. As long as there are a certain # (10 I think) of seats open and 24 hours out you get a confirmed seat

I 2 leg it to LGA and had zero issues. I finished IOE in October and have a composite line this month, but if projections for April hold I could go back to reserve.

dera 02-24-2020 06:44 PM
Originally Posted by AV8R72 (Post 2983340)
I never had an issue getting a confirmed seat if I did as the LOA says and book my A12 ticket 7 days out. As long as there are a certain # (10 I think) of seats open and 24 hours out you get a confirmed seat

I 2 leg it to LGA and had zero issues. I finished IOE in October and have a composite line this month, but if projections for April hold I could go back to reserve.
Positive space means they will kick out a paying passenger to accommodate you. So that is why it is not PS. Oversales also have higher priority than A12, so they can (and will) sell a plane full even if you have a confirmed seat.
How often this happens, I have no personal experience so I can't comment on it. But it's possible.

CLE to IAH 02-24-2020 07:04 PM
Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2983296)
Not what the class drop thread said.
you’re right. That’s my mistake.

AV8R72 02-24-2020 08:47 PM
Originally Posted by dera (Post 2983345)
Positive space means they will kick out a paying passenger to accommodate you. So that is why it is not PS. Oversales also have higher priority than A12, so they can (and will) sell a plane full even if you have a confirmed seat.
How often this happens, I have no personal experience so I can't comment on it. But it's possible.
maybe it’s possible, but every time it happened to me, I kept my seat, even on crazy days with lots of cancellations around the holidays.

dera 02-24-2020 09:02 PM
Originally Posted by AV8R72 (Post 2983419)
maybe it’s possible, but every time it happened to me, I kept my seat, even on crazy days with lots of cancellations around the holidays.
The good thing is that even though these would be unpaid removals, you have an unlimited number of missed trips because of this.

highfarfast 02-25-2020 04:25 AM
Originally Posted by AV8R72 (Post 2983340)
I never had an issue getting a confirmed seat if I did as the LOA says and book my A12 ticket 7 days out. As long as there are a certain # (10 I think) of seats open and 24 hours out you get a confirmed seat

I 2 leg it to LGA and had zero issues. I finished IOE in October and have a composite line this month, but if projections for April hold I could go back to reserve.
Originally Posted by AV8R72 (Post 2983419)
maybe it’s possible, but every time it happened to me, I kept my seat, even on crazy days with lots of cancellations around the holidays.
Your experience with A12 is nothing like mine. A12 is nearly worthless in my experience... in some scenarios, worse than D2 even.

speedbrakearmed 02-25-2020 05:52 AM
Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2983496)
Your experience with A12 is nothing like mine. A12 is nearly worthless in my experience... in some scenarios, worse than D2 even.
Tell me in what scenario its worse than a D2 when an A12 his higher than a D1T

highfarfast 02-25-2020 09:24 AM
Originally Posted by speedbrakearmed (Post 2983557)
Tell me in what scenario its worse than a D2 when an A12 his higher than a D1T
Any time the only way on the plane is via jumpseat.

Chato 02-25-2020 09:40 AM
Originally Posted by speedbrakearmed (Post 2983557)
Tell me in what scenario its worse than a D2 when an A12 his higher than a D1T
it could create confusion, when you check in with an upgraded listing it removes de FDJ next to your name. If there are other guys trying to get it, they might skip you.


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