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MqWhistleblower 03-13-2020 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2997539)
I mean, you as a whistleblower know that DECS numbers have nothing to do with company seniority? So where do you pull this furlough crap from?

All I’m saying is that I wouldn’t leave a green banana in the crew room if I was a new hire

Cyio 03-14-2020 03:16 AM


Originally Posted by uavking (Post 2997442)
It's naive to think that AA and UA aren't headed in the same direction in this environment.

Perhaps, perhaps not. UA and DL had a much larger financial impact for the EU closing due to their strategic partners. Even still, the stock market managed to claw some gains back and the three major airline stocks all closed up. These are good signs for us.

Cyio 03-14-2020 03:18 AM


Originally Posted by MqWhistleblower (Post 2997500)
DECS numbers have been updated. Furlough insight?

Has any company, regional or major talked about furloughing anyone? Seems that would be suicide in this market once this all passed. I would think a better and more likely solution would be to offer unpaid leave to those that want it, much like Delta has offered. This could solve the problem or at least buy some time.

MEGAFUPM 03-14-2020 03:28 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 2997433)
but we secretly wish we did.

With their history of treating regionals worse than American and their DGI success rate are you sure about that?

NoValueAviator 03-14-2020 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2997639)
Has any company, regional or major talked about furloughing anyone? Seems that would be suicide in this market once this all passed. I would think a better and more likely solution would be to offer unpaid leave to those that want it, much like Delta has offered. This could solve the problem or at least buy some time.

Compass is furloughing. TSA is firing all pilots and closing down.

MEGAFUPM 03-14-2020 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2997705)
Compass is furloughing. TSA is firing all pilots and closing down.

TSA isn't firing "all" pilots. And them and compass were already letting people go before any of this started. No need to inflate things beyond the truth than they already are.

CLE to IAH 03-14-2020 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2997705)
Compass is furloughing. TSA is firing all pilots and closing down.

were you asleep when TSA made their announcement and the reasons for their issue?

if not, why are you pretending they’re related?

NoValueAviator 03-14-2020 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 2997710)
were you asleep when TSA made their announcement and the reasons for their issue?

if not, why are you pretending they’re related?

The question was “has any company talked about furloughing anyone” and the answer is obviously yes, and recently. You seem feverish.

paulhood 03-14-2020 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 2997710)
were you asleep when TSA made their announcement and the reasons for their issue?

if not, why are you pretending they’re related?

Both Compass and TSA received reductions from United, so even though they were already reducing flying, the COVID situation is accelerating the process, at TSA new hires were asked to resign, they were not planning on doing so, since they still needed pilots to finish the year and they were counting on attrition to take care of it, but with all the majors stopping new hire clases, then there is less attrition.

Also GoJet received reductions from United and Delta accelerated theirs by one month, an announcement was made to re-run the bids for April to avoid furloughs, also voluntary LOAs are being offered at this time.

Gooch 03-14-2020 07:11 AM

This morning I furloughed some of this panic and negativity into the DFW sewer system after breakfast and coffee. Does that count?


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