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03-13-2020 | 02:50 AM

UnprotectdPilot

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The end of forced upgrades?

One bonus of COVID-19 is that it’ll potentially let Envoy play a little catch up on staffing. Granted, there weren’t any displacements for upgrade or no the last vacancy bid, but it was rather small.

Also, with AA talking about capacity cuts and potential E190, 757, 767, and 330 retirements, flow might be coming to an end for awhile. Time to get comfy in your seat and start coming up with alternative plans if AA goes BK again...

03-13-2020 | 05:07 AM

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ah yes, what a boon. a glut of pilots devalues our labor and Envoy gets caught up on staffing. I’m sure they will approve lots of good LOAs needed to fix reserve and other issues while also approving drops in this environment

03-13-2020 | 05:42 AM

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I wonder if the DECs are going to get displaced to FO

03-13-2020 | 07:12 AM

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Thats what I'm worried about with only a handful of CAs below me. On top of that I was displaced to captain on a jet I was never an FO on.

Almost without exception, most FOs start out on a plane they have never been an FO on either!

03-13-2020 | 07:29 AM

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Not just talked about, it’s been announced 767 grounded in May. 757 end of summer 2021

03-13-2020 | 07:31 AM

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Not just talked about, it’s been announced 767 grounded in May. 757 end of summer 2021

The MD80 was scheduled to go for about a decade before it actually went. We shall see.

03-13-2020 | 07:34 AM

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The MD80 was scheduled to go for about a decade before it actually went. We shall see.

I hope it doesn’t happen either but comparing the reasons for them announcing accelerating these groundings to the md80 is not fair

03-13-2020 | 08:40 AM

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Not just talked about, it’s been announced 767 grounded in May. 757 end of summer 2021

With the accelerated reduction, the trickle effect is going to be felt by all WO to remain in compliance with scope.

03-13-2020 | 12:23 PM

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Delta just announced parking 300 jets. If something similar happens at AA, scope will force the parking of a mess of RJ’s.
Not good.

03-13-2020 | 12:33 PM

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Delta just announced parking 300 jets. If something similar happens at AA, scope will force the parking of a mess of RJ’s.
Not good.

Would force majeure not apply in this situation, similar to the MAX? That would buy a few months before we’d have to park RJs, potentially enough to see the other side of this.