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UnprotectdPilot 03-13-2020 02:50 AM

The end of forced upgrades?
 
One bonus of COVID-19 is that it’ll potentially let Envoy play a little catch up on staffing. Granted, there weren’t any displacements for upgrade or no the last vacancy bid, but it was rather small.

Also, with AA talking about capacity cuts and potential E190, 757, 767, and 330 retirements, flow might be coming to an end for awhile. Time to get comfy in your seat and start coming up with alternative plans if AA goes BK again...

NoValueAviator 03-13-2020 05:07 AM

ah yes, what a boon. a glut of pilots devalues our labor and Envoy gets caught up on staffing. I’m sure they will approve lots of good LOAs needed to fix reserve and other issues while also approving drops in this environment

MqWhistleblower 03-13-2020 05:42 AM

I wonder if the DECs are going to get displaced to FO

pitchattitude 03-13-2020 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by coodrough568 (Post 2996523)
Thats what I'm worried about with only a handful of CAs below me. On top of that I was displaced to captain on a jet I was never an FO on.

Almost without exception, most FOs start out on a plane they have never been an FO on either!

SkylineAviation 03-13-2020 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by UnprotectdPilot (Post 2996387)
One bonus of COVID-19 is that it’ll potentially let Envoy play a little catch up on staffing. Granted, there weren’t any displacements for upgrade or no the last vacancy bid, but it was rather small.

Also, with AA talking about capacity cuts and potential E190, 757, 767, and 330 retirements, flow might be coming to an end for awhile. Time to get comfy in your seat and start coming up with alternative plans if AA goes BK again...

Not just talked about, it’s been announced 767 grounded in May. 757 end of summer 2021

Cyio 03-13-2020 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by SkylineAviation (Post 2996585)
Not just talked about, it’s been announced 767 grounded in May. 757 end of summer 2021

The MD80 was scheduled to go for about a decade before it actually went. We shall see.

SkylineAviation 03-13-2020 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2996586)
The MD80 was scheduled to go for about a decade before it actually went. We shall see.

I hope it doesn’t happen either but comparing the reasons for them announcing accelerating these groundings to the md80 is not fair

wiz5422 03-13-2020 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by SkylineAviation (Post 2996585)
Not just talked about, it’s been announced 767 grounded in May. 757 end of summer 2021

With the accelerated reduction, the trickle effect is going to be felt by all WO to remain in compliance with scope.

Cujo665 03-13-2020 12:23 PM

Delta just announced parking 300 jets. If something similar happens at AA, scope will force the parking of a mess of RJ’s.
Not good.


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