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Spoiler 05-24-2020 04:17 PM

You have every right to disagree with the Kooj but I cannot see the justification for the vitriol than many have chosen to pour out. Why make it personal??

THKooj 05-25-2020 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3063070)
You’re just an idiot. We are far from seeing this thing “burn out” and definitely not “well into recovering”.

I would love to be able to say you are right. But you’re just an idiot and way wrong.

It's quite apparent that you have no idea of the life cycle of a pandemic. The large majority of those that succumbed to the virus had comorbidities and were also north of 70 years old. Go take a look for yourself on the CDC and other sites. A little research can go a long way to make one seem not as much of a blathering idiot. Also, take a look at the new cases being reported. Not only has the curve flattened but it's trending down. Instead of just saying that you are an idiot and way wrong, I thought I would offer some advice and schooling to try and bring you up to speed.

highfarfast 05-25-2020 02:47 PM

Didn’t you also say that AA wouldn't stop hiring and flow wouldn't stop?

HalyardJammer 05-26-2020 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3063861)
Didn’t you also say that AA wouldn't stop hiring and flow wouldn't stop?

https://ibb.co/CbrjGw3

jake cutter 05-26-2020 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3062653)
Of course. Some of us have been saying this for awhile now but then we get the AA diehards come in and say debt is cheap.



I can’t see a way out of chapter 11 for AA.



This guy disagrees


https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed...y-is-nonsense/

rickair7777 05-26-2020 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 3063302)
You have every right to disagree with the Kooj but I cannot see the justification for the vitriol than many have chosen to pour out. Why make it personal??

Yes, please. Leave the insults and attacks out of it. If you really don't like what someone has to say, but them on your ignore list.

There are different expert opinions and analyses as to AA's prospects. The one that really got my attention was WB voting with his feet.

pitchattitude 05-26-2020 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3064302)
Yes, please. Leave the insults and attacks out of it. If you really don't like what someone has to say, but them on your ignore list.

There are different expert opinions and analyses as to AA's prospects. The one that really got my attention was WB voting with his feet.

WB is certainly an expert on finances. His vote with $ is telling. But he got out of ALL airline stock. BH still owns NetJets though.

But THKoolAids posts go way beyond ANYTHING anyone else has in this thread. Not just opinion on AA viability. He is a fake news troll and will continue to be called out.

rickair7777 05-26-2020 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3064310)
WB is certainly an expert on finances. His vote with $ is telling. But he got out of ALL airline stock. BH still owns NetJets though.

But THKoolAids posts go way beyond ANYTHING anyone else has in this thread. Not just opinion on AA viability. He is a fake news troll and will continue to be called out.

Call him out all you want if you don't agree, just keep it civil. Or put him on ignore if he triggers you that much.

highfarfast 05-26-2020 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3064314)
Call him out all you want if you don't agree, just keep it civil. Or put him on ignore if he triggers you that much.

Rick, I don’t think there’s a single person on this forum that values his input. And given potential recruits browse the forums for info, his ridiculously positive posts about anything Envoy has a chance to do harm to our negotiation position for us already here and could steer new pilots the wrong direction as well. So we can’t really put him on ignore, he has to be called out... but having to continuously do that devalues the forum.

But seriously 05-26-2020 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3064479)
Rick, I don’t think there’s a single person on this forum that values his input. And given potential recruits browse the forums for info, his ridiculously positive posts about anything Envoy has a chance to do harm to our negotiation position for us already here and could steer new pilots the wrong direction as well. So we can’t really put him on ignore, he has to be called out... but having to continuously do that devalues the forum.


I never bought that argument about having recruits come here hurts current pilots, but even if that was true in the past, it is certainly dead now. Those days are over. Even if, by some miracle, all the majors avoid furloughs, the hiring environment is going to be very slow for a few years at least.


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