I agree.
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That is so funny I haven’t chuckled at APC forums in a while! Imagine how wild that would be if that actually happened


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bingo....

Hence my suggestions months ago about single carrier and looking into a single list with fences...

 

I doubt AA pilots would ever accept a situation where their F15 buddies can't jump ahead of 8-12 year regional scum on the mainline seniority list.

 

I dont know, if I was an F15 pilot right now I would be highly skeptical of the airline world, potentially deciding to just make a career out of the military. I dont see any major doing any hiring at all for years, despite what some may say. Hell, SWA was 1500 pilots heavy prior to this, so you know they are 5 or so years out. Spirit already has a deep hiring pool of candidates that they were in the process of getting onboard right before this happened, so I dont see them needing anyone for awhile. United and Delta are furlough contenders, so again, they won't need anyone for years to come. AAG is still up in the air but I cant imagine DP did anything so unique that will eventually save them from the same fate as the others.

The cargo carriers have a huge list of candidates and filled their slots for years to come with he closing of TSA and Compass.

Hang on all, I dont see anywhere for us, or the military pilots to go for a long time. Depressing really.

 

Patience grasshopper. I've been through this twice before. 9/11 and the Great Recession. Eventually things return to normal. This time, much more quickly as the underlying economy was fundamentally strong before. Once that vaccine hits, by year end it seems, then I expect that V shaped recovery in spades. You have a job at AA. Just take a deep breath and let it out slowly.

 

And it was so quiet for a while. Go back to what ever rock you were hiding under. Your KoolAid swilling predictions and rhetoric aren’t believed by anyone anymore. Even the once bright eyed cadets you pander to can see your posts for what they are.

 

I agree with about 80% of this. I’m not an AA pilot until I get treated like one or we at least wear the same damn wings lol. My paycheck may say AAG but I sure as heck don’t get the 16% direct 401k contribution.

As for the recovery, I agree. The economy was built solidly and proof of that is the DOW currently sitting at 26,713.87. That’s only roughly 3k below pre Covid levels. No one is really talking about that. It’s impressive. So I think, and I’d like to believe others think the same way as well, that the vaccine will quell anxieties about traveling, sort of like a cure all shield. But I also think the media will try to keep this going since it’s an election year, and it will continue after wards. I won’t get into politics on that, but until the headlines stop reading about Covid panic click-bait, this will get dragged out. If not, then it will be pretty swift.


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I won’t even bother responding to “he who shall not be named” but I feel about as much like an AA pilot as a rock feels like a fish.

Im not convinced the recovery will happen anything like a V but here’s to hoping being wrong.

 

that was solved under the old outline we’d worked out. There were still ways to street hire on the bigger planes first. It would need retooling since the gap jet was the E190 and it’s going away for real.