ClappedOut145

Email the PilotHour address. It goes to all of the officers and reps. I got my question answered by a rep rather quickly.

nootpilot

APA JCBA Rev.1 SECTION 1 - 4 November 1, 2015

Cockpit Crewmember Floor.
In the event that the number of cockpit crewmembers employed by the Company on the American Airlines Pilots Seniority List goes below 7300, the parties agree that the commuter exception contained in this Section D. shall be terminable at the option of APA following a 90- day period to provide an opportunity for discussion. If APA elects to require termination of the commuter exception, the Company shall thereafter have a reasonable time to complete the disposition of the operations covered by this Section D. during which period the parties shall meet in good faith and discuss the issues related to such termination. Pilots added to the American Airlines Pilots Seniority List by way of seniority merger shall not count in calculating the number of cockpit crewmembers for purposes of this paragraph 3.

Preference in Hiring.
If pilots of the Company are on furlough, such pilots shall be given preference in the filling of vacancies on Air Carriers operated under Section 1.D. that are Affiliates. The Company shall also attempt to secure preference for such pilots for vacancies occurring at Air Carriers in which the Company or an Affiliate owns a minority equity interest and at independently owned Air Carriers that have franchise-type agreements or other codesharing relationships with the Company or an Affiliate.

Cyio

Could you put that all into context for the less brainy members lol. Legalese gives me a headache.

Naviator

what is the commuter exception contained in this part D?

Second part seems like flowback to the topof the new hire list at wholly owned.

highfarfast

Did they explain whatever that is on the conference call?

SomePilotDude

Not a single part sounds like a flow back. It says if we have vacancies they’ll be given preference. Doesn’t say a single thing about them getting a guaranteed job and keeping seniority.

But seriously

Doesn’t AA have about 15000 pilots on their list? Getting down to 7300 is magnitudes worse than anyone is proposing right now, so whatever that clause is, I wouldn’t worry about it.

As for the second part... a promise to give preferential hiring to furloughs is WAY different than “flow back”. I think most companies have a similar clause (I know UA used to pre-merger). If ENY/PSA/PDT aren’t hiring it’s meaningless, and at most it would be cause for a battle between some furloughees and cadets 12 months from now.

jake cutter

This. You ask 300 of the pilots on the call for their summary and you will get 300 different answers. Many of them nowhere near to what was actually said.

pitchattitude

Which is why the union should just email a summary to everyone. Not everyone having to ask.

crj700

If I'm not mistaken, the commuter exception is what allows the regional feed to exist in the AA world. Without it all flying must be done by pilots on the APA seniority list.