Here's one - how did the reserve pilots bid for reserve assignments/proffer for RAP before QT access was canceled and how do they do it now? Is HI31/AVRS menu tree explained or even mentioned anywhere in the training? I know my LCA showed me the basics of QT reserve functions and that was 2.5 yrs ago. Was QT an easier and less time consuming way to proffer? Sure was.
As you mentioned, p2p trading is nil or close to it. Did that leave a mark on pilots' QoL? I think it did, substantially so.
OT pickup, ATTOT, basic DECS entries - all of that saved time, and even if it was half hour a month (it was more), it's worth that subscription and then some.
I get the part where the union makes a point to distance itself from the issue to not be put in a position, where it has to spend negotiating capital on something that is 3rd party issues, but the impact on pilots' QOL is measurable and brushing it off as unimportant is wrong.
At the very least the company should make the sabre manuals accessible to those willing to read them. As it sits right now, it's a tribal knowledge transfer, where you seek out the elders for grains of sacred wisdoms of how to do this or look up that in DECS.
Anyway, it is a problem and it is not being solved.

Not sure how that related to the post you quoted. I don't think I ever said QT was not worth it. It really was, and MH could have charged 3-4 times more and people would've paid for it. I also have huge respect to MH and his team on how they developed something that wipes the floor of the apps built by the largest airline in the world. That is not my point. I am just trying to explain why it can't be bargained for at this time.
Feel free to call it BS or sucking up as some do. I'm just stating the facts.

The issues you are describing aren't even close to being status quo violations.

It is a problem, but for now, it can only be solved by QuickTrade, Envoy management and AAG.

Every automated email reply I have in the past from swaps and drops says:


ALL open time requests (daily and 48 hour window) may be submitted in one of 3 different ways:


Requests may be sent from the RF msgs in DECs, the website on MY.ENVOYAIR.com or the Quick Trade App.

But I guess that's not them pushing it's use.

I honestly don't care if it comes back, but to say throughout indoc, training, IOE, upgrade, etc everyone from the company didn't say "just use QuickTrade" is just false.

You folks have a point but it's not contractual and the union will have uphill battle. That's just my opinion. On a side note, with QT company can reduce staffing an additional 5 percent so financially it is beneficial to the company. Same a flow, financially it's a gold mine with all these pilots coming here to get paid less than at other regionals. I just mention this as a comparison.

Before QuickTrade, all you got from the training center on DECS was, “You’ll learn it on the line.” There’s not time built into the training schedule to teach DECS. It’s unfortunate and should change, but that’s the way it’s always been.

When I was new I spent a lot of time in the crew room asking questions. When I got a little more senior, I spent time answering questions for the new guys. Same thing applies to learning the contract and it’s loopholes.


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