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dera 07-13-2020 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 3091030)
This may be an unpopular opinion, but paying for quick trade is bull ****. Why do we have to pay 60$ per year to a guy who apparently has been bragging pre COVID about how his wife never has to work again because of QT. I think we should be focusing on getting the company to do this through CCI. CCI is the official company app, not QT. That’s in the contract. Also, pretty sure QT does cost the company money. Probably not a lot, but for ever server login there is a per user per login cost. Had AA still owned Sabre, perhaps this wouldn’t be an issue.

I used to use QT religiously and now I could care less if it comes back, and I won’t need to pay for anything.


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The one thing QT did really well that's sort of non existent now was P2P trading and pickups.
ATTOT window is so much better now when we don't have that 12:00:01 DECS CAPACITY OVERLOAD fiesta as it used to be.

UncreativeUser 07-13-2020 10:18 AM

R.I.P. QuickBid, QuickTrade
 
[QUOTE=shinydiscoballs;3091046]

Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 3091030)
This may be an unpopular opinion, but paying for quick trade is bull ****. Why do we have to pay 60$ per year to a guy who apparently has been bragging pre COVID about how his wife never has to work again because of QT. I think we should be focusing on getting the company to do this through CCI. CCI is the official company app, not QT. That’s in the contract. Also, pretty sure QT does cost the company money. Probably not a lot, but for ever server login there is a per user per login cost. Had AA still owned Sabre, perhaps this wouldn’t be an issue.

I used to use QT religiously and now I could care less if it comes back, and I won’t need to pay for anything.

I concur with you [emoji817] %, the company just needs a way to make things easier for us to bid monthly lines like (smart pref) etc. Bidding lines is ancient... I also heard MH is not refunding people's money, he can go pound sand!


@shinydiscoballs ; The eLogSite guy, the QT team, this is why I do not trust pilots who are develop as a hobby. Glad you agree, hopefully a good chunk of the group does too so we can start seeing better improvements if we actually start talking about it.


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But seriously 07-13-2020 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 3091030)
This may be an unpopular opinion, but paying for quick trade is bull ****. Why do we have to pay 60$ per year to a guy who apparently has been bragging pre COVID about how his wife never has to work again because of QT. I think we should be focusing on getting the company to do this through CCI. CCI is the official company app, not QT. That’s in the contract. Also, pretty sure QT does cost the company money. Probably not a lot, but for ever server login there is a per user per login cost. Had AA still owned Sabre, perhaps this wouldn’t be an issue.

I used to use QT religiously and now I could care less if it comes back, and I won’t need to pay for anything.


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You were right. That is an unpopular position with me. I couldn’t care less how much the guy who created it is making. QT was a useful service that I found to be worth my money. It’s not essential or life changing, but it was worth the $5.99 (or whatever it was). I’m certain there are trips I managed to trade or pickup who’s value far exceeded any money I’ve ever paid to QT.

I don’t think the company has any contractual obligation to make CCI useful for schedule changes (I don’t think CCI is contractually required at all, but I could be wrong about that).

pitchattitude 07-13-2020 10:48 AM

[QUOTE=UncreativeUser;3091050]

Originally Posted by shinydiscoballs (Post 3091046)


@shinydiscoballs ; The eLogSite guy, the QT team, this is why I do not trust pilots who are develop as a hobby. Glad you agree, hopefully a good chunk of the group does too so we can start seeing better improvements if we actually start talking about it.


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I agree that everything that QT does IS company business and should be provided by the company. They have DECS and CCI which is horrible. Improving the way it is done would benefit the pilot and FA group, NOT the company and those improvements would have to be done by the company and paid for by the company. ENY doesn’t do ANYTHING to make employee life better, even if completely cost neutral. They sure won’t PAY to make DECS and CCI better for pilots an FAs because it won’t benefit the COMPANY.

But seriously 07-13-2020 11:01 AM

[QUOTE=pitchattitude;3091075]

Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 3091050)
I agree that everything that QT does IS company business and should be provided by the company. They have DECS and CCI which is horrible. Improving the way it is done would benefit the pilot and FA group, NOT the company and those improvements would have to be done by the company and paid for by the company. ENY doesn’t do ANYTHING to make employee life better, even if completely cost neutral. They sure won’t PAY to make DECS and CCI better for pilots an FAs because it won’t benefit the COMPANY.

MobileCCI and MobileFOS ARE improvements that the company made at their own expense. MobileCCI certainly has some benefits to the company, but there are plenty of functions on there that are purely for our benefit and do make life easier.

Eclipse 07-13-2020 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 3091030)
Why do we have to pay 60$ per year to a guy who apparently has been bragging pre COVID about how his wife never has to work again because of QT. I think we should be focusing on getting the company to do this through CCI.

You never had to pay. You never had to use the app. When asked how much I made, I said she didn't have to work right now. It was nice that she could stay home with the kids. Not that she'd never have to work again. I agree that the company should make it work through CCI. Since they never did, I made it work.


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 3091030)
I also heard MH is not refunding people's money, he can go pound sand!

This is not true. Though my refund policy has always said I'm not responsible if the company shuts it down, I have still been doing refunds if asked.

SomePilotDude 07-13-2020 11:18 AM

[QUOTE=But seriously;3091086]

Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3091075)

MobileCCI and MobileFOS ARE improvements that the company made at their own expense. MobileCCI certainly has some benefits to the company, but there are plenty of functions on there that are purely for our benefit and do make life easier.

Yes, but they didn’t improve them out of the kindness of their hearts for us. They did it because they wanted to “harmonize” with AA and to help the operations and that happened to include a few useful things for us. The guys *****ing about QT costing a few bucks are ridiculous. You don’t have to use it. Quit your *****ing and move on. QT provided a service that proved very useful for the people that used it. The fact that the company killed it out of spite is what should **** everyone off. We didn’t do what they want us to and they went after us for it. What happens now that QT and such are pretty much dead? What else can they take away from us as punishment for not making changes they want? They already took away our ability to get Uber’s or taxis at airports after waiting 15 minutes. I personally know of several crews who had long waits while trying to call scheduling for a plan B. And guess what, that’s contractual and they still took it away. So it’s big picture. I’m mad and annoyed these things got taken away, but I’m even more ****ed why they got taken away.

dera 07-13-2020 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by SomePilotDude (Post 3091097)
They already took away our ability to get Uber’s or taxis at airports after waiting 15 minutes. I personally know of several crews who had long waits while trying to call scheduling for a plan B. And guess what, that’s contractual and they still took it away. So it’s big picture. I’m mad and annoyed these things got taken away, but I’m even more ****ed why they got taken away.

Why has no-one complained about this then?

highfarfast 07-13-2020 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 3091030)
This may be an unpopular opinion, but paying for quick trade is bull ****. Why do we have to pay 60$ per year to a guy who apparently has been bragging pre COVID about how his wife never has to work again because of QT. I think we should be focusing on getting the company to do this through CCI. CCI is the official company app, not QT. That’s in the contract. Also, pretty sure QT does cost the company money. Probably not a lot, but for ever server login there is a per user per login cost. Had AA still owned Sabre, perhaps this wouldn’t be an issue.

I used to use QT religiously and now I could care less if it comes back, and I won’t need to pay for anything.


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[QUOTE=shinydiscoballs;3091046]

Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 3091030)
This may be an unpopular opinion, but paying for quick trade is bull ****. Why do we have to pay 60$ per year to a guy who apparently has been bragging pre COVID about how his wife never has to work again because of QT. I think we should be focusing on getting the company to do this through CCI. CCI is the official company app, not QT. That’s in the contract. Also, pretty sure QT does cost the company money. Probably not a lot, but for ever server login there is a per user per login cost. Had AA still owned Sabre, perhaps this wouldn’t be an issue.

I used to use QT religiously and now I could care less if it comes back, and I won’t need to pay for anything.

I concur with you � %, the company just needs a way to make things easier for us to bid monthly lines like (smart pref) etc. Bidding lines is ancient... I also heard MH is not refunding people's money, he can go pound sand!

For one, you never HAD to pay for QT. It was always purely optional. So I don't understand the negative attitude toward QT. That said, I do agree that what QT does should be done through the company. But given the quality, or rather lack of quality, of the company apps, I have a feeling that a LOT of pilots would still pay for QT for $5 per month even if something like Mobile CCI did mostly the same functions.

FWIW, one of the biggest things I miss from QT was the email notifications (like when a new trip hits OT). I bet even if the company came up with their own version some day, it will never have that. The quick notification lets you grab the trip before someone else does. You do that once and you've paid for several years of the app with the one trip.

dera 07-13-2020 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3091199)
FWIW, one of the biggest things I miss from QT was the email notifications (like when a new trip hits OT). I bet even if the company came up with their own version some day, it will never have that. The quick notification lets you grab the trip before someone else does. You do that once and you've paid for several years of the app with the one trip.

99% of the time, by the time you see the notification, someone else had already taken that trip. The good 6-7 hour day trips used to go in seconds, and with the way QT cached things, it was not real time anyway.

Picking up OT has been much easier lately without QT.


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