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Old 07-29-2020, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by But seriously View Post
AA completely controls whether we have any flying out of NYC, but I doubt if they get involved in where we have crew bases.

If we had all our pilots based in HNL, AA would probably just ask the same two questions:
-Can you get flights out on time?
-At what cost?
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In the scenario I imagine, AA has not yet communicated that Envoy and the 145 are done in NYC. Even though they've already told the shareholders.
Actually AAG does control where they want the WOs.

While it may not be official that the NY base is closing, it is a fact there is no flying and no aircraft there. I think despite looking at the ‘Voy through KoolAid colored glasses, even THKooj could see the NY base is closing.
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Old 07-29-2020, 12:15 PM
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I think despite looking at the ‘Voy through KoolAid colored glasses, even THKooj could see the NY base is closing.
"American doesn't compete in the East or West. All of the real American action is in DFW and ORD. That's why AAG is pulling Envoy out of NYC and MIA. Welcome to American!"
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Honestly management is not that bad here, it's the union that puts a knot on everything good. ALPA does jack sht for the regionals.
So the management didn't walk away from the AIP? Management didn't fire the crew from the ORD wrong turn incident (the captain got his job back)? Management didn't blow COVID off as a "small blip in human history?" Management didn't turn a blind eye to the former chief pilot in ORD? Management didn't just roll out a buyout program without any input from ALPA? Management doesn't think that places like the Holiday Inn SGF are bad hotels? Come one. Be real. The biggest problem with the management at Envoy is that they have been here forever. There's no new blood. Look at their seniority numbers. They only know the decades of abuse from AMR and AAG. They haven't worked anywhere else and refuse to believe that there are better ways to do things.
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So the management didn't walk away from the AIP? Management didn't fire the crew from the ORD wrong turn incident (the captain got his job back)? Management didn't blow COVID off as a "small blip in human history?" Management didn't turn a blind eye to the former chief pilot in ORD? Management didn't just roll out a buyout program without any input from ALPA? Management doesn't think that places like the Holiday Inn SGF are bad hotels? Come one. Be real. The biggest problem with the management at Envoy is that they have been here forever. There's no new blood. Look at their seniority numbers. They only know the decades of ab from AMR and AAG. They haven't worked anywhere else and refuse to believe that there are better ways to do things.
“Small blip in human history”. Too bad that didn’t get leaked to the press. What a moronic thing to say.
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“Small blip in human history”. Too bad that didn’t get leaked to the press. What a moronic thing to say.
Even if this plague is with us until the end of the human race, do you really think the lockdowns will be?

I'd be surprised if any of this mandatory shelter in place, face covering, small businesses must close stuff is still going on in a year.
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Old 07-29-2020, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator View Post
Even if this plague is with us until the end of the human race, do you really think the lockdowns will be?

I'd be surprised if any of this mandatory shelter in place, face covering, small businesses must close stuff is still going on in a year.
I'd be surprised if any of this mandatory shelter in place, face covering, small businesses must close stuff is still going on November 4th.

I fixed it for you.
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Old 07-29-2020, 03:39 PM
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I'd be surprised if any of this mandatory shelter in place, face covering, small businesses must close stuff is still going on November 4th.

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This ^^^^^^^^
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Old 07-29-2020, 07:27 PM
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I'd be surprised if any of this mandatory shelter in place, face covering, small businesses must close stuff is still going on November 4th.

I fixed it for you.
Yes, the world is shut down until the US Election.

#cultureofignorance
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Yes, the world is shut down until the US Election.

#cultureofignorance
This will be fun to bump on Nov 5th
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I'm not into conspiracies but the polls revealing that the incumbent's approval rating plunges whenever new COVID restrictions are imposed definitely did not incentivize a mature, well considered response.
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