I think management believes that a good number of the people who chose to not return until March may not return at all and are just collecting two paychecks.

I think the ones in charge expected recovery and vaccine rollout to have happened sooner.

With the new strains coming and international travel being hosed once again, some of these decisions seem dubious at best.

The longer I do this job the more I realize how speculative it is and how decisions take time to come to fruition. I feel like that is why we see a lot of strange positioning in hindsight.

There are no AA owned airplanes at Mesa.

This was brought up a while back. There WERE, at least, six or seven that AAG owns and had leased to Mesa.

I believe they dry lease 16 900s. As to whether AA has any say on the leases and who can operate them no clue. But the new contract also allows AA much more flexibility to pull flying. Up to 10 this summer and I think 10 more in 2022.

I completely agree. In the short time I've been at the airlines it's crazy how any little piece of info can be spun up into "this is happening etc."

There is a lot of speculation and rumor's in this industry.

Why don't you buy American and go Tesla? You'll save even more money in operating costs than a Prius

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last I checked the pay rates section of the contract, Chevy Volt is like the top shelf product in the category. Slightly used.

Dude. If you are going electric you have to go Miata.

https://insideevs.com/news/457982/ma...-zero-ev-swap/

I'm not. I'm going car paid off, please no major issues next couple of years.

I was joking brother, I couldn’t bring myself to drive a Prius. I have been tossing around the idea of a Model 3 though, especially now that I can download Move B**** by Ludacris and have that as my horn.

Rumors in the training center of a large MIA vacancy in the near future.

soon to be followed by a large ord displacement

We won’t close ORD

He didn't say it would be closed.

Feels like time for a Best Coast base. We already have like 6 daily departures from Phoenix.

Displacement is not the same as closing. We are clearly heavy on OCL and if Miami needs them in the short term that’s a good place to start.

Focus on staffing MIA and DFW, give ORD to OO and RAH until flying picks up enough there that AAG can turn a profit then stick all the 224 guys getting paid to sit at home (hopefully they don't have to go on the involuntary leave) in ORD and maybe some new hires eventually.

I thought so too, but then I saw PSA in DFW and Piedmont in ORD, and everyone over there thought they were gonna get new bases. PHX would be nice though I could play more golf.

This would make too many people happy therefore it will never happen

True, but you have to balance that with how many the ‘Voy can make UNhappy by displacing people west, so it could still be a thing...

Base is not a function of departures a day, it depends on number of planes overnighting. I haven't looked but I think we have 0 in PHX.

So there are crews overnighting but not planes?

Just asking. I think an Envoy PHX base is just as unlikely as the LAX.

We aren’t flying 175s at all to MIA until the base opens next month. None of the numbers matter, what matters is what the bean counters want.

Also our daily flights in PHX top out around 9 next month, almost as many as our ORD 175 departures. 🙃

Not sure what you mean by the MIA comment, there are a bunch of overnighting planes in MIA in April.

With our current schedule, ORD 175 would not be a base. Closing down a base has a cost so everyone hopes it will pick back up.
But it is better as a base than PHX with 9 daily departures. To open a base, you need planes overnighting there. I dont think we have any (or at least many) in PHX.

Just a word to the wise from a former Eagle guy—don’t ever think they wouldn’t do something like that (not saying you are). I remember when the CRJ was new, they moved them all to ORD. Then later, moved them back to DFW. I was displaced as a result. It can and has happened.

Yeah what I meant was MIA seemed to come out of nowhere, there wasn’t a hint of 175 flying there and then BAM “we’re opening MIA 175”. The planes are overnighting there in April because it’s a base.

We are overnighting airplanes in PHX, though I don’t know how many.

Interesting that republic base in Miami closed but they still maintain considerable presence in miami

It’s just a ramping down. 0 flights out of MIA in May for AA.

DELTA was taking advantage of them having a base there. YX is still going to fly into MIA, just not have crews based there.

That was my point. They will still be there in descent numbers.

So by descent numbers, you mean going down. Or do you mean decent numbers as in stay a large number.

We’re in the aviation business. Words mean things, so to convey the correct meaning, you need to use concise, unambiguous verbiage.

But I don’t think that any presence Republic has in MIA will be significant for AA. They fly for three different carriers, so sure, they may still be there but any AA flying will be minimal through flying, just like Envoy does through any number of hubs that attend domiciles.

If you say so.
either case, the point was when everyone was saying republic is out of miami was wrong, they are still there with a descent presence just as in ord where 175 flying as is, is being reduced with increase of republic flying.

WIth 6 daily departures coming after the next schedule change, and 0 departures after that, I'm not sure what you consider a descent (sic) presence.

Unfortunately thats what was said regarding ord also. I personally don't trust envoy or aag mgt to tell me if its night or day.