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Originally Posted by skyemiles2
(Post 3140807)
Have you seen some of the reserve lists?
If people who do want or need to work don’t pick up OT, people who don’t want to work will get JM’d. There is no cost savings to the company in that case and an even further reduction in QOL. Not everyone lives rent free in their parents basement. We all have bills. I don’t pick up OT hardly ever, but I’m not going to judge anyone for doing what they do because I assume they have their reasons. I’m skeptical that it actually has any real affect, but it does show solidarity. |
Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM
(Post 3140835)
I said others do, and that it wasn’t a great excuse. You'd expect someone from an airline that still uses all paper to be able to read. And nope, never had faith in the flow and planned as such.
so we’re on the same page then, my apologies. envoy forum is always a great source of entertainment. |
Threads like these will cost us a lot of money, when company sues the union for illegal work actions.
Just so you know, they are watching. |
Originally Posted by But seriously
(Post 3140846)
This is exactly why they say not to pickup OT. Theoretically it is to force the company to be understaffed and bring people back. No one cares about saving the company money.
I’m skeptical that it actually has any real affect, but it does show solidarity. Threatening your fellow pilots with a blacklist is sleazy, and trying to organize anything IS a work action. If you think they won’t notice, you are delusional. |
Originally Posted by skyemiles2
(Post 3140861)
I understand the logic. I don’t think there’s anyone who doesn’t want the furloughed pilots to be employed.
Threatening your fellow pilots with a blacklist is sleazy, and trying to organize anything IS a work action. If you think they won’t notice, you are delusional. No one is organizing anything. It would be the ultimate Envoy move if they did sue us over it, btw. They’ve been demanding for 6 months that we give up the ability to pick up OT, then they turn around and sue us for not picking up OT. Classic. |
There are no “blacklists”. No one cares. You want to pick up OT? Go for it. Don’t want to pick up OT? Go for it.
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Originally Posted by But seriously
(Post 3140868)
No one is organizing anything.
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Originally Posted by Lahey
(Post 3140820)
so you budget above min guarantee or you got downgraded? The latter is understandable, not so much the other. maybe it’s time you reevaluate your lifestyle.
no one should have to pick up OT to make ends meet. if you don’t budget well below min guarantee, I’ve got no sympathy for you. #wereallinthistogether First of all, No, I’m not downgrading. Second of all, keep your financial advice to yourself. I spend my money the way I want. Who the f* are you to tell me to re-evaluate my lifestyle? And, I don’t need you to be sympathetic. Third of all, go back to your PDT threads. You really ****ed me off. |
Originally Posted by Ijustlikeflying
(Post 3140825)
have you seen how much an express jet pilot makes?
Dont drink the kool aid “i just like flying” |
I'm curious, how are these supposed blacklists to be used? You going to refuse to friend them on Facebook? Call in sick if you're scheduled to fly with them?
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