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SomePilotDude 12-02-2020 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by highfive11 (Post 3165539)
According to the ch-aviation fleets advanced module, Mesa Airlines operates a total of sixty-four CRJ900s, all of them used for American Eagle flying. It owns 48 of these aircraft and dry-leases the remaining units from Bombardier Services (15) and Aviator Capital (one). The airline does not operate any other aircraft on behalf of American Airlines.

64 airplanes to operate a 40 airplane CPA and they still have some of the worst performing flights?

THKooj 12-02-2020 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by SomePilotDude (Post 3165731)
64 airplanes to operate a 40 airplane CPA and they still have some of the worst performing flights?

I don't disagree. Why do you think AAG is reducing their contract? Hint. Slowly weeding them out. Who do you think is going to replace that capacity? Another hint. Look at which forum you are in.

ninerdriver 12-02-2020 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3165734)
I don't disagree. Why do you think AAG is reducing their contract? Hint. Slowly weeding them out. Who do you think is going to replace that capacity? Another hint. Look at which forum you are in.

I didn't know that they spelled Skywest E-N-V-O-Y.

buddies8 12-02-2020 02:27 PM

That's why skywest signed with aag to extend contract for 700's, the a new contract for 20 more 700's and on top of that 20 e175's were signed.
thats why republic is back in ord and were out of NY while republic picks up east coast flying.

UncreativeUser 12-02-2020 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 3165791)
That's why skywest signed with aag to extend contract for 700's, the a new contract for 20 more 700's and on top of that 20 e175's were signed.
thats why republic is back in ord and were out of NY while republic picks up east coast flying.


I think Republic will take the NY area coupled with jetBlue blue but we’d probably return to ORD and maybe do some kind of mixed flying with republic out of MIA until the slight chance we get EOW/ETOPS equipped. PHX is something I always thought we’d might get during the LAX rumor since SKW runs a monopoly out there essentially now at this point. But now that they took 20 CRJs and with 40 Mesa CRJ’s I don’t know how we will ever get that as a base. Frustrating since we always perform really good but cost always wins.


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JungleJetBoss 12-02-2020 04:40 PM

EOW and ETOPS are two different things.

UncreativeUser 12-02-2020 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by JungleJetBoss (Post 3165853)
EOW and ETOPS are two different things.


Ok I’ll rephrase, let’s say ENY shoves life rafts into the airplane to get EOW or gets certified to fly longer than 60 minutes from an adequate airport to become ETOPS certified. Trying to avoid a knowledge ****ing match here fellas just a discussion on future bases!


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dera 12-02-2020 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 3165859)
Ok I’ll rephrase, let’s say ENY shoves life rafts into the airplane to get EOW or gets certified to fly longer than 60 minutes from an adequate airport to become ETOPS certified. Trying to avoid a knowledge ****ing match here fellas just a discussion on future bases!


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EOW doesn't require rafts. It's a relatively easy op spec to get. Life vests (seats already have the holders), safety briefing card and tape, and FAA approved dispatch procedures with a few observation runs.
It's not a "slight chance" for Envoy to get it, it's already in the works.

UncreativeUser 12-02-2020 04:57 PM

Just.... nevermind lol


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Cyio 12-02-2020 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 3165851)
I think Republic will take the NY area coupled with jetBlue blue but we’d probably return to ORD and maybe do some kind of mixed flying with republic out of MIA until the slight chance we get EOW/ETOPS equipped. PHX is something I always thought we’d might get during the LAX rumor since SKW runs a monopoly out there essentially now at this point. But now that they took 20 CRJs and with 40 Mesa CRJ’s I don’t know how we will ever get that as a base. Frustrating since we always perform really good but cost always wins.


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I have to agree, as much as it pains me to say so. I would love to have a west coast base with PHX being a great option as well, however, don't see it in the near future. Skywest and Mesa just have all the flying, I don't see how we would fit in. Too bad really, would be nice to fly in that part of the country more often.


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