Defeating the stigma
11-03-2020, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
I've heard that Envoy guys are considered arrogant from a Skywest pilot. Only Envoy stigma I'm currently aware of, and he might've just been trying to tell me I'm arrogant.
I kid I kid! We all have our special ones, no matter who signs our paychecks.
Thanks to the guy who started the thread to say thanks, not enough of that in my opinion. Sure they meant well!
11-03-2020, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by normalperson
This is ridiculous, THE STIGMA that we can’t all be professional and friendly with each other?!? That as pilots some of us can act like little *****ez? The stigma that this forum has to be a giant ****xxg match. Never for one second meant to imply a stigma about envoy. Just wow. I’d be glad to change the thread title to “thanks” or “collegiality” or something but apparently that’s not a feature here.
kind of in shock at the responses. Certainly not my intentions to cause a shizstorm on here.
kind of in shock at the responses. Certainly not my intentions to cause a shizstorm on here.
Title, "Defeating the Stigma".
Thread, "Non-reved on an Envoy flight today". "Went out of their way to be professional", "Dont believe the forums". All of these things lead us to believe that there is stigma about us in regards to not being professional with jumpseaters. I understand what you are saying now, sort of, but it really was presented in a way that brought questions and responses that you received. I also wouldn't call any of this a ***tstorm, this is just us trying to make sure we don't have some reputation with jumpseating, as that would be something we need to address as a pilot group.
As I mentioned, I am glad you had a great experience, they all should be that way with us.
11-03-2020, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FullThrust
Also, completely unnecessary to let the CA and/or FO know you are non-revving on the flight. If you are jumpseating, then obviously you need to check in. Non-rev? I don’t care, please don’t check in with me up front.
I agree though, that if you are just non-reving, then no need to check in with the cockpit. Glad you’re on, but as a D2, unless you have some good rumors or a joke to share... go take a seat.
11-03-2020, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by But seriously
I think he was saying, let them know BEFORE boarding (if possible). It’s not a bad idea. I usually try to keep an eye out and have a quick talk to the agent so we can avoid someone getting left off for a weight restriction. Obviously not every problem can be avoided, but it’s a lot easier to work some magic 40 mins prior to departure than 10 mins when everyone is trying to close.
I agree though, that if you are just non-reving, then no need to check in with the cockpit. Glad you’re on, but as a D2, unless you have some good rumors or a joke to share... go take a seat.
I agree though, that if you are just non-reving, then no need to check in with the cockpit. Glad you’re on, but as a D2, unless you have some good rumors or a joke to share... go take a seat.
11-03-2020, 12:04 PM
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Like I said, wish I could change the title of the thread, no luck from mods. The stigma was simply that sometimes pilots are petty whatever shop they’re with. I think that stigma is out there lol. Yes I was referring to JS, no biggie guys. Seriously just giving props. I apologize if I worded it in any other way. Not frustrated or unstable just a positive moment to share in a turmoil time in the industry.
11-03-2020, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FullThrust
Also, completely unnecessary to let the CA and/or FO know you are non-revving on the flight. If you are jumpseating, then obviously you need to check in. Non-rev? I don’t care, please don’t check in with me up front.
11-03-2020, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsOut03
I guess I’ve been doing it wrong this whole time...I always poke my head in just to introduce myself and say thank you for taking me home....unless there is clearly a brief or a checklist being run then I walk on through. I just think it’s polite and a professional courtesy to show that respect for anyone at ANY airline. Just my 2 cents.
. Imagine if every employee non-revving did that? Just because we are pilots non-revving, it doesn’t make us special (much to many pilots dismay).
11-03-2020, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by FullThrust
Yes, you have been doing it wrong . Imagine if every employee non-revving did that? Just because we are pilots non-revving, it doesn’t make us special (much to many pilots dismay).
. Imagine if every employee non-revving did that? Just because we are pilots non-revving, it doesn’t make us special (much to many pilots dismay).
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