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pitchattitude 01-20-2021 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by herewego (Post 3183947)
Wait I'm confused.
Are you saying that Chem trails really are mind control chemicals added to our fuel?
Obama really was born in Kenya?
Trump won by a landslide?
and a Miata really is a sports car?

Or are you saying all those things are false?

I said no such things. I just said the company can’t locate your iPad if it’s off.

If that was true, it would be so much easier to find idiots that get lost and let their phone batteries die.

Just sayin...

LAXtoDEN 01-20-2021 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3183954)
I said no such things. I just said the company can’t locate your iPad if it’s off.

If that was true, it would be so much easier to find idiots that get lost and let their phone batteries die.

Just sayin...

They’re company issued iPads, not your personal phone.

https://www.cultofmac.com/161263/20-ways-your-company-can-track-you-using-your-iphone-or-ipad/

This article is almost 9 years old btw.

herewego 01-20-2021 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN (Post 3183958)
They’re company issued iPads, not your personal phone.

https://www.cultofmac.com/161263/20-...phone-or-ipad/

This article is almost 9 years old btw.

From the Article

let’s move on to what information can be monitored and reported. MDM tools can setup regular automated monitoring of all managed devices or they can query specific devices as needed. Provided the device is on and connected to the Internet, it will respond.

LAXtoDEN 01-20-2021 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by herewego (Post 3183966)
From the Article

Yeah somebody in a separate thread (wish I could find it) claimed company issued devices can be turned on, if true maybe run the battery to 0%, but who would have a dead iPad while on reserve?

I think this gives a better idea of where the world is at with AI. https://youtu.be/H15uuDMqDK0

Would not be surprised if I heard any company’s IT department set up a program to manipulate your company issued iPad if required.

pitchattitude 01-20-2021 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN (Post 3183972)
Yeah somebody in a separate thread (wish I could find it) claimed company issued devices can be turned on, if true maybe run the battery to 0%, but who would have a dead iPad while on reserve?

I think this gives a better idea of where the world is at with AI. https://youtu.be/H15uuDMqDK0

Would not be surprised if I heard any company’s IT department set up a program to manipulate your company issued iPad if required.

Yes, and there are a lot of CLAIMS, but nothing backed by FACTS. For a device to be triggered it has to be in SOME state of on and connected. While batteries can’t be removed (easily) from most devices, off is still off.

nottoday 01-20-2021 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN (Post 3183972)
Yeah somebody in a separate thread (wish I could find it) claimed company issued devices can be turned on, if true maybe run the battery to 0%, but who would have a dead iPad while on reserve?

I think this gives a better idea of where the world is at with AI. https://youtu.be/H15uuDMqDK0

Would not be surprised if I heard any company’s IT department set up a program to manipulate your company issued iPad if required.

LMAO. do you have facebook, gmail? any email? use the internet? if the company needs your location for contract violation in a lawsuit they got it. they won't use the company ipad illegaly.

herewego 01-20-2021 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN (Post 3183972)
Would not be surprised if I heard any company’s IT department set up a program to manipulate your company issued iPad if required.

The company has set up a program to manipulate your iPad, such as when they push an update to you. Reading the FOIB you will notice an instruction to leave the iPad plugged in and connected to the internet overnight so they can push the update.
There's a difference between sleep and off.


And remember... Alexa is always listening. Google is always listening. otherwise neither would recognize the wake up command.

LAXtoDEN 01-20-2021 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by herewego (Post 3184003)
And remember... Alexa is always listening. Google is always listening. otherwise neither would recognize the wake up command.

Oh I’m aware..... https://www.foxnews.com/tech/youre-not-paranoid-your-phone-really-is-listening-in

dera 01-20-2021 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3183680)
Well I know of one for sure that did, however it was more about “why” they were not at their RAP that did them in. Let’s just say telling a major lie on top of missing a rap probably isn’t the best way to handle it.

Either way, tread lightly all.

Yeah he did not get fired for not commuting to RAP. You know perfectly well he deserved it.

I also asked what is recently. because this was what, 5 months ago?

buddies8 01-21-2021 06:49 AM

Or just don't turn on or use your company issued ipad until your in domicile.

herewego 01-21-2021 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 3184179)
Or just don't turn on or use your company issued ipad until your in domicile.

But can't the illuminati ping your iPad with it turned off?
Maybe it would be easier to actually be in position for an RAP, or call in Sick or emergency before a Short Call RAP began.
And yes mental health is a legitimate reason to call in sick.

buddies8 01-21-2021 07:35 AM

Carefull with mental health, that will ground you.

aewhistleblower 01-21-2021 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 3184207)
Carefull with mental health, that will ground you.

What about being sick of working?

GroundPointNine 01-21-2021 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by aewhistleblower (Post 3184288)
What about being sick of working?

Denied due to staffing limitations.

-Swaps & Drops

rickair7777 01-21-2021 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 3184207)
Carefull with mental health, that will ground you.

:eek: No kidding...

First off, no airline is going to go for that because it basically would give all crew personal days at their unlimited discretion.

Secondly I guarantee that if you say that on tape the company will ground you pending an evaluation and AME clearance. That's going to lengthy and expensive, at best.

You don't have to tell them why you called in sick, and you should not.

NeverHome 01-21-2021 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3184291)
:eek: No kidding...

You don't have to tell them why you called in sick, and you should not.

Wellll, you could tell them that you got a wicked case of the fire squirts. Tell them that satan lives in your gut and you are looking to get him exorcised.

ClappedOut145 01-21-2021 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by NeverHome (Post 3184386)
Wellll, you could tell them that you got a wicked case of the fire squirts. Tell them that satan lives in your gut and you are looking to get him exorcised.

Should we submit video for proof?

CLE to IAH 01-21-2021 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3184468)
Should we submit video for proof?

two pilots. One lav.

dera 01-21-2021 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by NeverHome (Post 3184386)
Wellll, you could tell them that you got a wicked case of the fire squirts. Tell them that satan lives in your gut and you are looking to get him exorcised.

"Its coming out from both ends" usually works.

ClappedOut145 01-22-2021 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3184472)
two pilots. One lav.

Coming soon...to a theater near you...the story of laughter, treachery, love, heartache, and hilarity. Blue Falcon Productions presents;

Two Pilots, One Lav.

Bring a bucket and a mop because it’s going to be a mess.

CLE to IAH 01-23-2021 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3185029)
Coming soon...to a theater near you...the story of laughter, treachery, love, heartache, and hilarity. Blue Falcon Productions presents;

Two Pilots, One Lav.

Bring a bucket and a mop because it’s going to be a mess.


pass. I never enjoyed blue falcon productions. Always an underlying story of theft and lack of morals.

here you are watching a story about the lav and suddenly you find out that one pilot stole the other pilots toilet paper without him knowing and the next time the first pilot goes into the lav, he finds his TP has been stolen.

ClappedOut145 01-23-2021 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3185152)
pass. I never enjoyed blue falcon productions. Always an underlying story of theft and lack of morals.

here you are watching a story about the lav and suddenly you find out that one pilot stole the other pilots toilet paper without him knowing and the next time the first pilot goes into the lav, he finds his TP has been stolen.

But there’s a twist. He knew the Blue Falcon was up to no good and spritzed the toilet paper with ghost pepper juice and skydrol before it was stolen. Blue Falcon had an irritated crinkle star for a week and had to go to the hospital.

CLE to IAH 01-23-2021 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3185534)
But there’s a twist. He knew the Blue Falcon was up to no good and spritzed the toilet paper with ghost pepper juice and skydrol before it was stolen. Blue Falcon had an irritated crinkle star for a week and had to go to the hospital.

justice at last.

I heard the alternate version was that the pilot whose TP got stolen remarked to the FA’s that the other pilot stole it and warned them and the other pilot then ran crying to the CPO and got the actual VICTIM in trouble.

terrible flick.

NoValueAviator 01-25-2021 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3185577)
justice at last.

I heard the alternate version was that the pilot whose TP got stolen remarked to the FA’s that the other pilot stole it and warned them and the other pilot then ran crying to the CPO and got the actual VICTIM in trouble.

terrible flick.


Your version of events is accurate, unfortunately.

The best part though is that the union decided that the best response was a gentle discussion about professional courtesy while admitting that they feel the blue falcon's actions were technically acceptable. All we can do now is remember the guy's real name and wait for it to matter some day.

MochaSwirl 01-25-2021 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3185577)
justice at last.

I heard the alternate version was that the pilot whose TP got stolen remarked to the FA’s that the other pilot stole it and warned them and the other pilot then ran crying to the CPO and got the actual VICTIM in trouble.

terrible flick.

Im out the loop here, what? Fill me in lol

Cyio 01-26-2021 04:11 AM


Originally Posted by MochaSwirl (Post 3186517)
Im out the loop here, what? Fill me in lol

In summery, “Blue Falcon” would intentionally cyber stalk pilots during bidding and while they were doing a trade he would come in and take flights off their schedule or trade them bad ones, often causing them to lose days off etc. overall a generally ****ty thing to do.

He was called out on his behavior and pilots were disciplined for using his name because he felt threatened or harassed. The union, as far an anyone really knows simply had a discussion with him and said nothing we can do, which some say is accurate and some thought more could be done because he wasn’t following our code of ethics.

Long story short, “Blue Falcon” was the name that was decided on as it is his initials.

highfarfast 01-26-2021 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3186562)
In summery, “Blue Falcon” would intentionally cyber stalk pilots during bidding and while they were doing a trade he would come in and take flights off their schedule or trade them bad ones, often causing them to lose days off etc. overall a generally ****ty thing to do.

He was called out on his behavior and pilots were disciplined for using his name because he felt threatened or harassed. The union, as far an anyone really knows simply had a discussion with him and said nothing we can do, which some say is accurate and some thought more could be done because he wasn’t following our code of ethics.

Long story short, “Blue Falcon” was the name that was decided on as it is his initials.

Blue Falcon is not his initials. It comes from Buddy ********r. I would type his name out but that’s been said to be a big no no here. Someone with an actual quasi news connection should type a story on him so we can consider him a public figure.

edit: I think it’s funny that I put in my own asterisks for everything but the F and R, not know how the filter would catch the real thing and wanted someone reading to know the real word... and it still got filtered to not having an F!

Cyio 01-26-2021 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3186581)
Blue Falcon is not his initials. It comes from Buddy ********r. I would type his name out but that’s been said to be a big no no here. Someone with an actual quasi news connection should type a story on him so we can consider him a public figure.

edit: I think it’s funny that I put in my own asterisks for everything but the F and R, not know how the filter would catch the real thing and wanted someone reading to know the real word... and it still got filtered to not having an F!

My mistake on the initials. As for the auto filter, my guess is his last name was placed in a list so the forums would block it like other words not approved.

highfarfast 01-26-2021 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3186588)
My mistake on the initials. As for the auto filter, my guess is his last name was placed in a list so the forums would block it like other words not approved.

It wasn’t his last name that was filtered. It was my typing of a swear word without even typing the actual word. The swear word behind Blue Falcon.

CLE to IAH 01-26-2021 06:19 AM

can we get this back to pertinent aviation discussion now?

for example,

If DFW is north flow and a pilot is high and fast and lands beyond the TDZE.... say all the way down at the intersection of 35C and Taxiway B (assuming no go around), one could say that pilot lands by B.

highfarfast 01-26-2021 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3186602)
can we get this back to pertinent aviation discussion now?

for example,

If DFW is north flow and a pilot is high and fast and lands beyond the TDZE.... say all the way down at the intersection of 35C and Taxiway B (assuming no go around), one could say that pilot lands by B.

You would think you wouldn’t have to tell such a pilot not to do such a thing... landing beyond the TDZE that is.

dera 01-26-2021 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3186602)
can we get this back to pertinent aviation discussion now?

for example,

If DFW is north flow and a pilot is high and fast and lands beyond the TDZE.... say all the way down at the intersection of 35C and Taxiway B (assuming no go around), one could say that pilot lands by B.

Lands By B. I see what you did there ;)

CLE to IAH 01-26-2021 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3186608)
You would think you wouldn’t have to tell such a pilot not to such a thing... landing beyond the TDZE that is.

I would imagine that pilot would or “should” know that they’re not doing the right thing.

but that assumes too much.

CLE to IAH 01-26-2021 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3186609)
Lands By B. I see what you did there ;)

Why would you ruin this? LOL

Cyio 01-26-2021 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3186618)
Why would you ruin this? LOL

Classic. lol

NoValueAviator 01-26-2021 07:14 AM

It kills me that guys were so proud they figured it out that they had to post about it. You know the mods love this subforum.

buddies8 01-26-2021 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3186590)
It wasn’t his last name that was filtered. It was my typing of a swear word without even typing the actual word. The swear word behind Blue Falcon.

did it end with er?

ClappedOut145 01-26-2021 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3186602)
can we get this back to pertinent aviation discussion now?

for example,

Lands by B.

that is a spectacular analogy. You win APC today.

highfarfast 01-26-2021 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 3186691)
did it end with er?

Well, yeah... but you knew that already. Just found it funny that the filter won’t even let you filter yourself.


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