Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3197632)

OK, that's fine. At least you're consistent. I do drive over the speed limit though. Not because I get there faster (the difference is miniscule enough I'm amazed at how many people insist on driving out of their minds) but because if I do drive the speed limit, I'm so much slower than everyone else I feel like I'm being the safety hazard. Not because I don't think the rules don't apply to me. I can see your point on that as far as some people not thinking the rules apply to them. I just don't like the notion that if you'll break this rule it means that you'll break that rule.

Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3197562)

This verges on personal but no I don’t intentionally speed. I’ve accidentally done it but not intentionally. We all make mistakes. It’s the attitude I’m discussing. That rule is stupid so I don’t obey it. The phone really doesn’t interfere. Does it? Does it matter if it doesn’t? It’s the culture of “the rules don’t apply to me” that is dangerous. It’s why I am merciless deplaning a disruptive passenger. If they can’t follow simple sit in your own seat. Stow your bag. Etc how can I trust that in an emergency evacuation they will follow instructions without question?

Same with crew. We have procedures. Follow them. I hate the guys that ask me “are you standard” because they are not. I’m
as standard as I can be. Striving for perfection. Certainly not there yet. If you’re catch me being non standard call me on it. I’ll fix it.

It’s the ATTITUDE towards the rules.

Originally Posted by LoneStar32 (Post 3197763)

So you never broken a rule in your life? Wow, St. Peters is going to have the pearly gates wide open for you. Just be careful of your glass house, it tends to come back and bite you in the ass in the end.

Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3198079)

You clearly didn’t read the post. I did not say that nor mean to imply that. I do not make it a habit to consistently break the rules and that’s kind of the point. I hate black and white thinking.

Originally Posted by LoneStar32 (Post 3198104)

black and white thinking like if somebody doesn't put their phone on airplane mode they will eventually crash a triple seven?

Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3198166)

I am pretty sure I didn’t say that. But you might crash a 145.

Originally Posted by But seriously (Post 3198191)

That said, the idea that phones affect flight instruments is nonsense. It may have been true (I think it was) with much older phones, and much older avionics. Flight crews, FA’s, PAX, all leave their phones on transmit mode on a regular basis, and there are not 145’s falling out of the sky left and right.