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Excargodog 02-17-2021 08:33 AM
Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 3196164)
There’s a good explanation on the AA thread which talks about focus cities as well as avoiding JB flying being put on AA RJ’s.
As I said, JB’s slots and gates going to AA, in some cases going BACK to AA since they were originally obtained as a condition for allowing AA to do other things that reduced competitiveness in those hubs. But one of the fallouts of the COVID pandemic is the inability of the legacies to meet gate and slot ‘use it or lose it’ criteria DESPITE cycling RJs through their hubs. The waiver on that requirement has been extended what? Three times now? That’s not going to be extended forever.

But yes, manipulating RJ flying has been a legacy technique to keep a monopoly on their hubs for quite awhile now. Whether that will survive the COVID induced decrease in flying remains to be seen. And the JetBlue pilots are clearly aware of that.

NoValueAviator 02-19-2021 06:22 AM
Anyone know what the people who are always SCREAMING into their phones in Spanish during taxi in/out are talking about or why the JB FA's don't try to stop them?

This has always puzzled me greatly but I don't want to seem like a dick making a thread in the JB forum.

APCbot 02-19-2021 09:05 AM
Originally Posted by coodrough568 (Post 3197104)
they don’t stop them because it’s not against the rules to talk on your phone during taxi
Huh?

filler

pangolin 02-19-2021 10:46 AM
Originally Posted by coodrough568 (Post 3197104)
they don’t stop them because it’s not against the rules to talk on your phone during taxi
It sure as **** is.

APCbot 02-19-2021 10:56 AM
Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3197160)
It sure as **** is.
thank you

Filler

pangolin 02-19-2021 11:46 AM
Originally Posted by coodrough568 (Post 3197174)
the first thing I hear when we land is the FAs tell the passengers they are free to use their phones. Maybe that’s not talking on it, but just texting. Everyone just pulls their phones out and starts talking anyway. I don’t know Spanish and not sure why they’re yelling on the phones, also never been on a JetBlue aircraft
It’s pretty hilarious but it makes sense. They have to be off in airplane mode as soon as the door is closed at the gate. So taxi OUT they have to be off. Taxi in - it’s all ok. Because we are not about to be airborne and that’s where it matters and it DOES matter. Especially 5G.

But seriously 02-19-2021 04:32 PM
Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3197185)
It’s pretty hilarious but it makes sense. They have to be off in airplane mode as soon as the door is closed at the gate. So taxi OUT they have to be off. Taxi in - it’s all ok. Because we are not about to be airborne and that’s where it matters and it DOES matter. Especially 5G.
Yes, it’s the rule, so I follow it, but no, it doesn’t matter in the least. I’m willing to bet half the phones in the cabin are left on all the way through the flight. Including the crew members’ phones...


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