Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3239347)

Todd is as toxic as it gets. I don’t know how he has a job. Absolutely incredible.

Originally Posted by But seriously (Post 3239293)

My guess is, if the FO had stopped his rant at 10,000ft, he wouldn’t have gotten in trouble. I can’t imagine the company could take action if you do everything right, but call a bunch of managers D-Bags while in cruise.

Originally Posted by But seriously (Post 3239293)

That said, unfortunately, we have to remember that anything we say in that cockpit could end up getting printed in the papers if something goes wrong.

Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3239347)

Todd is as toxic as it gets. I don’t know how he has a job. Absolutely incredible.

Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3238736)

"Intermittent ground contact"

Originally Posted by Santaslilhelper (Post 3239524)

I thought the same until I stumbled upon this...

Visual Callouts

The following callouts are not included in the individual profiles but can be included to enhance situational awareness.
-Intermittent ground contact
-Ground contact
-Approach lights in sight

EMB-145 AOM 1 Profiles 5.7

Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3239483)

He has a job because he does exactly what JE and management want him to do. He ****es pilots off, violates the contracts, causes us to file disputes that take forever to be heard and carries their torch forward. He is exactly the type of employee that they love.

Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3239483)

He has a job because he does exactly what JE and management want him to do. He ****es pilots off, violates the contracts, causes us to file disputes that take forever to be heard and carries their torch forward. He is exactly the type of employee that they love.

Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3239255)

I've known more people get fired for what they said on the CVR vice what they actually did. About half of those were not at fault at all, or flew the plane before the incident crew. If you have an incident that puts you an employment grey area to begin with, gross unprofessionalism or bad-mouthing the company on tape will make it very easy for them to pull the trigger, and the union won't have any high-ground to save you either.

One guy got fired because his CA hit the jetway on on taxi-in that the FO 100% could not see... but he left a running profane monologue on the tape about the company in general and specific managers (all the way from cruise to impact at the gate). The CA, who suffered the tirade in silence got run through the wringer for a year but got his job back and he was the one who hit the jetway.

Your professionalism on the CVR is your best defensive pitch to keep your job.

Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3239587)

Years ago IIRC XJT had a guy like that in crew scheduling... their next contract included language specifying that the guy in question, BY NAME, was not allowed to be employed in a position involving supervision, scheduling, or interacation with flight crew (think he went mesa after). So there's always that.

Originally Posted by FAR121 (Post 3239610)

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the FAA NOT allowed to use CVRs in enforcement actions? The company can do as it needs to.

Originally Posted by FAR121 (Post 3239610)

So they were really THAT bad at their position that the union went and put that into the contract OR was it more of an attitude issue towards flight crews that caused that language to be added in?

Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3238971)

Allegiant had an extensive expose on 60 minutes. Granted a lot of their issues were mechanical and stemmed from the old MDs they were flying that have since been retired. But they recovered nicely and that was the whole airline, not just a single regional of many that fly the brand.