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Old 08-26-2021, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
I get it, if you're a year or two from flow, you don't care about any of that. You'll accept it will suck and then collect the check. Can't blame you. But they COULD fix the airline with that amount of money. It's the bottom half of seniority list that gets nothing, and they are the ones leaving.
these people don't care about the pilot group. they are probably 2016 hires who have enjoyed insane career progression.

they just want to cash in and then to haul the ladder up behind them as they climb.
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Old 08-26-2021, 01:41 PM
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Seriously, it ONLY reduces attrition to the degree that it raises QOL for our pilots. What is so hard to understand about that?
It briefly and temporarily raises qol. It’s the union equivalent of spending your stimulus check on beer. The alternative is to hold out for a permanent increase in qol thar they can’t just allow to expire in 2 years
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Old 08-26-2021, 01:45 PM
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Old 08-26-2021, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT View Post
It briefly and temporarily raises qol. It’s the union equivalent of spending your stimulus check on beer. The alternative is to hold out for a permanent increase in qol thar they can’t just allow to expire in 2 years
these people won't be here so they DGAF

just envoy being envoy. screw everyone else, leap at the first offer anyone gives you, and then follow it up with some advice from your two weeks on reserve.

management is playing these fools, getting envoy to envoy its own.
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Old 08-26-2021, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by whatevertibs View Post
these people don't care about the pilot group. they are probably 2016 hires who have enjoyed insane career progression.

they just want to cash in and then to haul the ladder up behind them as they climb.
Everyone can cash in in the way that works best for them in this market
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Old 08-26-2021, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT View Post
It briefly and temporarily raises qol. It’s the union equivalent of spending you’re stimulus check on beer. The alternative is to hold out for a permanent increase in qol thar they can’t just allow to expire in 2 years
If by beer you mean $150,000 then you’re right. In 2 years things will either still be tight and the good times will roll, or they won’t and then we would’ve given up a massive chunk of change.
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Old 08-26-2021, 02:06 PM
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Seriously, is anybody who is against this (as in vote no) actually an Envoy pilot, or just a bunch of formers who get all prickly at the idea of something good happening to someone else?
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Old 08-26-2021, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dumpy View Post
Seriously, is anybody who is against this (as in vote no) actually an Envoy pilot, or just a bunch of formers who get all prickly at the idea of something good happening for anybody else?
is anyone that is for this not someone who will flow soon?
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Old 08-26-2021, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by whatevertibs View Post
is anyone that is for this not someone who will flow soon?
Non-answer answer.
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Old 08-26-2021, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dumpy View Post
Non-answer answer.
so youre flowing soon?
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