Not enough incentives for FOs

Well, if we're talking about real incentives to stay. I'd say it's not enough for captains either... unless you're already really close to flowing.

30k for captain or upgrade, 70k to flow, and another 50k paid out over 2 years everyone goes to pay band c and flow improvements based on retention. I don’t think we’re getting anything better than that.

You have no idea what’s in there. Trust your MEC. Now is not a time to be divisive. And if you’re unhappy with the status quo, run for a rep position or volunteer for a committee.

Believe me, I do know what’s in there. Trust who? An MEC full of rookies?

I'm not disagreeing with you're point. But think about it. Over the course of a career at a major, don't you think you'd make up the difference quite quickly even with a just a few months of seniority at the next job?

I mean, I'll gladly take the dough. But I'm gone if the jobs I'm targeting call either way.

Is the LOA coming out tonight?

It’s got to be pretty much the same thing that Piedmont already posted (flow numbers will be a little different). My math has it as around an extra quarter billion in incentives over the next four years. It would be $30 million just for the flows for the next year. I’d hate to be a no vote on this thing if it blows up. A lawsuit would be sure to follow…

I'm really curious about this incentive bonus to fly. So, if you're on reserve and proffer for all the flying you can and pick up all the OT you can and only fly 30 hours as month (my memory of reserve)... do you qualify?

I have to admit, I'd be pretty ****ed if I upgraded too early to hold a line if there was no way to qualify for the activity bonus.

How would a lawsuit follow a no vote?