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dera 12-16-2021 12:51 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3336533)
Looks like Envoy is getting the boot from the AA training center and will be doing all (or the vast majority) of simulator training at the Dallas Avenger Flight Group 2 facility. A total of 5 sims going in for Envoy’s exclusive use.

First E145 already moved, second being moved. Two brand new E170 sims on order and one coming from Charlotte.

The CAE sim coming from CLT is actually a really nice one.

pitchattitude 12-16-2021 01:25 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3336533)
Looks like Envoy is getting the boot from the AA training center and will be doing all (or the vast majority) of simulator training at the Dallas Avenger Flight Group 2 facility. A total of 5 sims going in for Envoy’s exclusive use.

First E145 already moved, second being moved. Two brand new E170 sims on order and one coming from Charlotte.

Other than the old Airways 190 sim in CLT, 175 training has never been at an AA facility.

dera 12-16-2021 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3336540)
Other than the old Airways 190 sim in CLT, 175 training has never been at an AA facility.

Where did they have the 170 sim in DFW? Was it Flight Safety as well?

AllYourBaseAreB 12-16-2021 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3336540)
Other than the old Airways 190 sim in CLT, 175 training has never been at an AA facility.

it was a 170 sim, not a 190, but I digress

mej3811 12-16-2021 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3336533)
Looks like Envoy is getting the boot from the AA training center and will be doing all (or the vast majority) of simulator training at the Dallas Avenger Flight Group 2 facility. A total of 5 sims going in for Envoy’s exclusive use.

First E145 already moved, second being moved. Two brand new E170 sims on order and one coming from Charlotte.

Does this mean no more training in CLT for us?

pitchattitude 12-16-2021 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3336564)
Where did they have the 170 sim in DFW? Was it Flight Safety as well?

All the DFW and STL sims were FSI.

As I understand, Envoy got a certain amount of sim time with each new airframe. With no new planes and the used ones planes coming from the far reaches of the globe they may have decided it was cheaper to finally buy their own (or lease from a different vendor).

NoValueAviator 12-16-2021 06:27 AM

Speaking of sims, why does the CLT sim dump all the crosswind on you at 100 feet? Is there something I can tell the instructor to do in the setup so it's more gradual? lol

Cujo665 12-16-2021 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3336540)
Other than the old Airways 190 sim in CLT, 175 training has never been at an AA facility.

The E145 was at GSW except when hiring was too much for two sims and had been there for over two decades.
Sad to see them getting the boot out of GSW instead of replaced with 2 of the 3 sims coming.

pitchattitude 12-16-2021 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3336636)
The E145 was at GSW except when hiring was too much for two sims and had been there for over two decades.
Sad to see them getting the boot out of GSW instead of replaced with 2 of the 3 sims coming.

My guess is taking the opportunity to (somewhat) consolidate ENY training and free up some space for mainline as well. Although someplace, and I don’t remember where, has floor space but the ceiling isn’t tall enough for new generation sims.

BigZ 12-16-2021 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3336564)
Where did they have the 170 sim in DFW? Was it Flight Safety as well?

FS South initially, yeah


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