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Originally Posted by dera
(Post 3300777)
I'm too old and was too junior to ever have a meaningful career at AA, so it was never a goal for me. It works for younger guys, but if you get to AA in your mid 40s after the huge hiring wave, the numbers change significantly.
Getting hired today at Spirit would net me almost a million dollars more at retirement than waiting 6 more years for flow. Not sure if 332/hr is "bottom end payrate". But you do you. |
Originally Posted by Cujo665
(Post 3300874)
Yep, try to explain to people that upgrading at an ACMI or LCC in under two years is far superior than waiting 2 years to upgrade at Envoy, then 3-4 more years to flow, then 2-5 years as an AA FO before upgrading. You're potentially at 10 years of CA pay at the LCC-ACMI before they upgrade at AA. If you've only got 15-20 years left getting in the left seat sooner anyplace is probably a better choice than waiting to flow.
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Originally Posted by Crimson37Roger
(Post 3301246)
You might be happier in life if you stop worrying about *other people* getting to the left seat the quickest and making as much money as possible.
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
(Post 3302221)
I'm very happy. Love my life exactly as it is. If sharing some insight can help others make informed decisions, then that's a good thing for all, isn't it? Well, it may not be the best thing for Envoy, but it's still the best thing for the pilots....
Nobody here wants to listen to your ranting. You're just........sad. |
Originally Posted by cr700
(Post 3302240)
Someone with a happy life wouldn't be in a forum for their old company posting CONSTANTLY about how bad the old company is. Just sayin. Take a look in the mirror Cuj.
Nobody here wants to listen to your ranting. You're just........sad. |
Originally Posted by pitchattitude
(Post 3300171)
The folks being hired at Frontier that are cadets, as I understand” have to lay out another large chunk of $$ for their type. I don’t think you’re going to see large numbers going directly to those places.
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Originally Posted by cr700
(Post 3302240)
Someone with a happy life wouldn't be in a forum for their old company posting CONSTANTLY about how bad the old company is. Just sayin. Take a look in the mirror Cuj.
Nobody here wants to listen to your ranting. You're just........sad. |
Originally Posted by wingtipwalker
(Post 3302452)
Fake news. I don't know if there are training contracts, but Frontier CFI hires are not having to pay out of pocket for their type rating.
“Before transitioning to Frontier, pilots must independently complete an enhanced ATP CTP. “ Source: https://atpflightschool.com/airlines...-alliance.html Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
That’s the ATP class not the type.
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Envoy Sim Training Moving
Looks like Envoy is getting the boot from the AA training center and will be doing all (or the vast majority) of simulator training at the Dallas Avenger Flight Group 2 facility. A total of 5 sims going in for Envoy’s exclusive use.
First E145 already moved, second being moved. Two brand new E170 sims on order and one coming from Charlotte. |
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