Hiring non-121 F/O’s
 

So now that Republic has stopped hiring (NOTE: Referring to non-121) F/O’s, AA WO have stopped hiring F/O’s, SkyWest has stopped hiring F/O’s, Horizon is not hiring F/O’s, Mesa has stopped hiring F/O’s, that leaves Air Wisconsin & CommuteAir, Frontier, Spirit, Breeze, Silver, Wheels-Up, Go-Jet, FlexJet, & NetJets who are left hiring 1500 CFI F/O’s. What are these regionals going to do when these high time F/O’s leave for the Legacy’s and the 1500 CFI’s will all be gone to the ULCC or 135 world after being ghosted for so long.

This hiring hubris will bite them in the rear sooner than they think. Envoy mgmt did this back in 2017-2018, and many thought they would have learnt their lesson then.

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Even when they created that history.

If those guiding the hiring at Envoy were flying the plane, they’d be lucky to still be holding onto the last rudder static wick. Or as I was once told in an early lesson, if my aircraft was ever involved in a mishap, I wouldn’t be harmed because I was so far behind the plane, I wouldn’t even be at the scene of the accident!

Envoy has stopped hiring FO?

Not exactly, but effectively. They have, for the last several months, until the most recent orientation class, only been hiring those with the experience to immediately be captain. The most recent orientation class had some cadets in it. Not sure how long those guys have been in the pipeline waiting. But if you are not someone with captain qualifications, it will be a LONG wait to even be acknowledged.

How often is orientation?

Once every month

No not exactly. Went to the 11/3 orientation, 15/65 we’re cadets. One I sat next to waited 4 months, another 2, another 6. Staff made it clear they want to hire FOs and cadets…they understand that they can only string those candidates along for so long. Having said that, there were about 5-8 FOs(non cadets) the rest DEC including myself

While all those people are twiddling their thumbs waiting I finished training, got a type and atp and already moved on to a major in about 7 months time. Those people waiting are wasting their career potential. Don’t wait.

How “often” is orientation? Like the 1st Monday of the month, or every 2-weeks, or every Monday? 65 seems like a lot for a class starting per week