Just saw this and wondered what the good, the bad, and the ugly of all this will be?

Pilot Recruiting Incentive

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Without reading the details, I’ll guess that they are including the flow bonus in that. While it’s not technically a lie, they aren’t adding that $120,000 of the $175K is spread out indefinitely to your unknown flow date.

 

Won't stop someone from biting when recruiting also tells them they'll flow in 6 years.

 

The bad and the ugly start with the numbers are misleading and gets worse from there. You will be on reserve at a company that has possibly the worst reserve rules in the industry. DO NOT do this if you plan to commute. The misleading part is if you leave the company any time before three years for anywhere besides American, you will have to pay back the $30K captain bonus and if you leave for anywhere besides American AT ANY POINT, you will not see the rest of $120K. Don’t expect that you will get to American via the flow. The numbers are pretty much impossible for a new hire.

I think that’s probably enough.

Read through the history of this forum. Nothing has changed except the $150K retention bonus that is designed to keep captains at the company until they make it to American, but that is a very small window of people and if you’re not already on property and a captain or close to upgrading, it won’t help you.

 

We’re so short on pilots there’s no one flying that plane!!!

 

The bad and the ugly start at flight schools now. ATP is now asking for 84k if you want to start that is with airline sponsorship. A 172N is now for sale for 100k, it is $200 per hour wet without the CFI

I would not become a pilot if I have to start today unless someone is going to give me 100k + a paycheck to pay that 100k back.

 

How is this different than the original retention bonus offering. Insert that folks with 750* hours of 121 time can get an additional bonus. Then next sentence they state, that anyone with 145/170 type get an extra 7.5k. do 121 time.in a Q or CRJ still get an additional experience bonus?

 

That part of the bonus is not, but those were not RETENTION but HIRING bonuses. Having not seen the contract, that part is likely pro rated if one leaves the company between one year and two years and commitment complete at two years.

The first $30K of the rest of the $150 is THREE years, which even for someone coming in as a DEC is a LONG time and has NO pro rating. The rest of the $120K has even more strings attached and I venture to say MOST who get hired as a DEC will never see it.

 

^long way from flow for sure

 

What is the projected flow time for a new hire?