Originally Posted by enyPSIsc2b

Why continue to make lateral moves during the current hiring environment?

Originally Posted by Freedom2A

How long after fingerprints, drug test, logbook review, etc (CJO, no interview, with prior 121)... are people hearing back to get a firm offer/orientation date?

Originally Posted by pitchattitude

The bad and the ugly start with the numbers are misleading and gets worse from there. You will be on reserve at a company that has possibly the worst reserve rules in the industry. DO NOT do this if you plan to commute. The misleading part is if you leave the company any time before three years for anywhere besides American, you will have to pay back the $30K captain bonus and if you leave for anywhere besides American AT ANY POINT, you will not see the rest of $120K. Don’t expect that you will get to American via the flow. The numbers are pretty much impossible for a new hire.

I think that’s probably enough.

Read through the history of this forum. Nothing has changed except the $150K retention bonus that is designed to keep captains at the company until they make it to American, but that is a very small window of people and if you’re not already on property and a captain or close to upgrading, it won’t help you.

Originally Posted by Freedom2A

How long after fingerprints, drug test, logbook review, etc (CJO, no interview, with prior 121)... are people hearing back to get a firm offer/orientation date?

Originally Posted by 135HA420

I did my fingerprints and junk a little over a week ago and I just got a orientation date for 10-6 this morning.

Originally Posted by Flyboy68

Same here, but did my fingerprints/drug screen/logbook review on August 3rd. Apparently the FAA or Mesa didn’t get my paperwork back to Envoy until last week.

Now I have to make the decision between staying at Mesa and upgrading, or moving to Envoy as a DEC.

Any advice from current Envoy employees would be appreciated. Gonna be commuting from Louisiana. Have about 4-5 direct flights daily.

Originally Posted by Flyboy68

Same here, but did my fingerprints/drug screen/logbook review on August 3rd. Apparently the FAA or Mesa didn’t get my paperwork back to Envoy until last week.

Now I have to make the decision between staying at Mesa and upgrading, or moving to Envoy as a DEC.

Any advice from current Envoy employees would be appreciated. Gonna be commuting from Louisiana. Have about 4-5 direct flights daily.

Originally Posted by CFIsoonToBeFO

Not a current employee, but if layoffs happen with a recession in progress, your seniority at Mesa might save your job.

Originally Posted by pitchattitude

If you’re flying the 175 out of HOU with Mesa, with the new pay rates, I definitely wouldn’t give up your seniority to go to ENY. That being said, it has a whole lot more to just giving up seniority and starting over at a new airline than it has anything to do with it being ENY or any concern of layoffs. What do you think you will gain by doing so? If there is not something significant to gain by doing so, then don’t. Giving up more than you gain. It’s a lateral move.

Originally Posted by Flyboy68

Same here, but did my fingerprints/drug screen/logbook review on August 3rd. Apparently the FAA or Mesa didn’t get my paperwork back to Envoy until last week.

Now I have to make the decision between staying at Mesa and upgrading, or moving to Envoy as a DEC.

Any advice from current Envoy employees would be appreciated. Gonna be commuting from Louisiana. Have about 4-5 direct flights daily.