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Old 08-27-2022 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
They are to be making more than envoy i believe starting october
It’s hard to keep track of the pay rates nowadays
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Old 08-27-2022 | 07:15 PM
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Looking for some career advice. I received a CJO with no prior 121 experience in June, completed ATP-CTP, and was slotted for a July orientation before being told it was cancelled. I know the company is prioritizing prior 121 pilots, and I'm curious if it's worth waiting for Envoy to call.

I was told I could probably expect to wait until the end of the year. I also have an offer from Skywest with a possible September start date.

Do you guys think it's worth waiting for Envoy without any certainty of a start date or would you take the sure thing at Skywest? Short term goal is securing a Chicago base, longer term I'm trying to get to any of the legacy carriers.

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Mesa. 100/hr 76 hour guarantee. In training.
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Old 08-28-2022 | 09:31 AM
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Mesa. 100/hr 76 hour guarantee. In training.
No ORD base.
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Old 08-28-2022 | 12:21 PM
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Mesa unfortunately is a nonstarter due to their base offerings. I will likely pursue Skywest hoping their pay comes up significantly from the $60 proposed in the latest TA. If not, I will probably try to hop back to Envoy at the first chance I get.

Does anybody know if leaving during any part of training would be a career limiting move? I've heard airlines will assume you washed out out of training even if you leave voluntarily, but I'd be happy to hear otherwise.
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Old 08-28-2022 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 3400
No ORD base.
Yet. We have been moving steadily toward one on the 175 for a while now.
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Old 08-28-2022 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by purplemoses
Mesa unfortunately is a nonstarter due to their base offerings. I will likely pursue Skywest hoping their pay comes up significantly from the $60 proposed in the latest TA. If not, I will probably try to hop back to Envoy at the first chance I get.



Does anybody know if leaving during any part of training would be a career limiting move? I've heard airlines will assume you washed out out of training even if you leave voluntarily, but I'd be happy to hear otherwise.
Yea, don't do that. It'll look like you washed out or were asked to resign for less than stellar reasons. If you think you are going to bail, don't ever start.

In a few years time, you might be wishing you had done differently when you can't get a bite from any of the majors and are stuck working at a second or third tier cargo operator.

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Old 08-29-2022 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 3GreenKSNA
Yea, don't do that. It'll look like you washed out or were asked to resign for less than stellar reasons. If you think you are going to bail, don't ever start.

In a few years time, you might be wishing you had done differently when you can't get a bite from any of the majors and are stuck working at a second or third tier cargo operator.

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Yes, because when Delta and United are hiring people whose only 121 time comes from turboprops with Cape Air, a third tier cargo pilot is going to struggle...
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Old 08-29-2022 | 11:28 AM
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Yes, because when Delta and United are hiring people whose only 121 time comes from turboprops with Cape Air, a third tier cargo pilot is going to struggle...
Yep the good times never end. Spend your WB CA money now. This industry is always consistent and predictable.Just ask all those 1999 Eagle guys who were hearing all the same things when they got hired (Pilot shortage, immediate upgrades, mainline in just a few years).
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Old 08-29-2022 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by But seriously
Yep the good times never end. Spend your WB CA money now. This industry is always consistent and predictable.Just ask all those 1999 Eagle guys who were hearing all the same things when they got hired (Pilot shortage, immediate upgrades, mainline in just a few years).
Bookings are down outside normal trends. Recession impact is coming.
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Old 08-29-2022 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Bookings are down outside normal trends. Recession impact is coming.
Please quit being such a Debbie Downer. Lol

Please Lord, let these pay raises last for several years!
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