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pangolin 09-13-2022 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by Flyboy68 (Post 3493743)
Same here, but did my fingerprints/drug screen/logbook review on August 3rd. Apparently the FAA or Mesa didn’t get my paperwork back to Envoy until last week.

Now I have to make the decision between staying at Mesa and upgrading, or moving to Envoy as a DEC.

Any advice from current Envoy employees would be appreciated. Gonna be commuting from Louisiana. Have about 4-5 direct flights daily.

You may not get Dfw right away. You’ll be jr on reserve for 3.5 years. What’s the jr base? Commuting to reserve sucks.

GroundPointNine 09-13-2022 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3493940)
You may not get Dfw right away. You’ll be jr on reserve for 3.5 years. What’s the jr base? Commuting to reserve sucks.

Right now junior base is DFW and there is a standing vacancy for DCL so in theory they would be able to hold it in the first week of indoc. All about timing though because just a few months ago MIA was the junior base.

3400 09-13-2022 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3493940)
You may not get Dfw right away. You’ll be jr on reserve for 3.5 years. What’s the jr base? Commuting to reserve sucks.

Dude you’re a clown, get out of here.

You’ll get DFW within 3-6 months if not right away, and you will be on reserve at most a few months.

All 3 bases are very attainable for FOs, DFW is junior captain base.

pitchattitude 09-13-2022 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Flyboy68 (Post 3493761)
The training department at Mesa is in disarray. I have no idea when I’ll be able to upgrade (I have the hours by a lot) because of the emphasis on FO’s right now. Besides that, the failure rate for upgrades is very much higher than it should be because of the training department. And Mesa doesn’t have the years of 121 experience credit that Envoy does. I’d be starting at Envoy as an 8 year DEC vs a 4 or 5 year CA at Mesa. Plus the bonuses at Envoy. The money at Envoy would definitely be more.

I flew with a new Mesa CA the other day, it took him 6 months to upgrade. That’s ridiculous. At least the FO min pay would be livable now, but not when he went through it.

Are you at Mesa right now? If so you already have the seniority, years, etc. Training issues is another subject.

pitchattitude 09-13-2022 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by 3400 (Post 3494130)
Dude you’re a clown, get out of here.

You’ll get DFW within 3-6 months if not right away, and you will be on reserve at most a few months.

All 3 bases are very attainable for FOs, DFW is junior captain base.

As someone else posted, DFW just became the junior captain base. As far as reserve time, as a direct entry captain, do not be surprised if you spend 18-24 months on reserve. A few months on reserve is what an FO should expect.

Yes, Pangolin is a clown that doesn’t work at Envoy and is talking out his a$$.

Flyboy68 09-13-2022 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3494157)
Are you at Mesa right now? If so you already have the seniority, years, etc. Training issues is another subject.

Yes, and Mesa’s training department is a shîtshow right now.

04stangman 09-13-2022 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by 135HA420 (Post 3493347)
I did my fingerprints and junk a little over a week ago and I just got a orientation date for 10-6 this morning.

Are you. Cadet or prior 121?

pangolin 09-13-2022 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by 3400 (Post 3494130)
Dude you’re a clown, get out of here.

You’ll get DFW within 3-6 months if not right away, and you will be on reserve at most a few months.

All 3 bases are very attainable for FOs, DFW is junior captain base.

As each fo upgrades hired prior to you then you’ll be pushed down. Recruiter told me expect 3.5 + years of reserve as DEC.

135HA420 09-14-2022 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by 04stangman (Post 3494436)
Are you. Cadet or prior 121?

I had about 5 years 121. But I’ve been corporate for the last 3.

04stangman 09-14-2022 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by 135HA420 (Post 3494584)
I had about 5 years 121. But I’ve been corporate for the last 3.

So with all that prior, why you go to a regional like envoy?


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