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Work2Live 09-14-2022 03:18 PM
How quickly are prior 121 folks getting responses after applying? I've got 2700 121 TT but I got out of the game before the addition of ATP-CTP to the FARs so I don't have my ATP. Back in the stone ages you only needed your commercial multi to be an FO and you got your ATP as part of CA upgrade. I'm assuming that would knock me out of getting to bypass the interview.

pitchattitude 09-15-2022 07:52 AM
Originally Posted by Work2Live (Post 3494914)
How quickly are prior 121 folks getting responses after applying? I've got 2700 121 TT but I got out of the game before the addition of ATP-CTP to the FARs so I don't have my ATP. Back in the stone ages you only needed your commercial multi to be an FO and you got your ATP as part of CA upgrade. I'm assuming that would knock me out of getting to bypass the interview.
Have you been doing other flying? Lack of recency would likely require a FTD eval.

chihuahua 09-15-2022 08:12 AM
Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3495327)
Have you been doing other flying? Lack of recency would likely require a FTD eval.
Just curious, what would the threshold for this be? If you were out for a couple years, but were current and logged some time flying GA, would that suffice, or do they want to see that you were flying jets or turboprops?

Work2Live 09-15-2022 08:22 AM
Originally Posted by chihuahua (Post 3495348)
Just curious, what would the threshold for this be? If you were out for a couple years, but were current and logged some time flying GA, would that suffice, or do they want to see that you were flying jets or turboprops?
Haven't touched a plane since I left. Good to know because I've been simming to brush up but exclusively in the CRJ that I flew. A twin Baron with no FD is a wholly different animal altogether. It has been quite easy to knock the rust of flying the RJ but ironically I bet it might a bit rougher to spin up on a piston twin, which I haven't touched in nearly 20 years!

Work2Live 09-15-2022 08:26 AM
Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3495327)
Have you been doing other flying? Lack of recency would likely require a FTD eval.
Haven't touched a plane since I left. Thanks for the heads up because I've been simming to knock the rust off but on ln the CRJ that I flew. I was pleasantly surprised at how quickly the muscle memory returned but spinning up on a piston twin with no FD is a wholly different animal that I haven't gotten behind the wheel of in 20 years!

pitchattitude 09-16-2022 05:38 AM
Originally Posted by chihuahua (Post 3495348)
Just curious, what would the threshold for this be? If you were out for a couple years, but were current and logged some time flying GA, would that suffice, or do they want to see that you were flying jets or turboprops?
Not 100% sure, but I believe the “recency” requirement is 100 hours in past 12 months. I don’t think the airframe matters. You can search some of the other threads as they have talked about it. You can always TRY and contact recruiting, but that seems to be rather futile.

chihuahua 09-16-2022 06:20 AM
Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3495820)
Not 100% sure, but I believe the “recency” requirement is 100 hours in past 12 months. I don’t think the airframe matters. You can search some of the other threads as they have talked about it. You can always TRY and contact recruiting, but that seems to be rather futile.
Hmmh, that's kind of a bit if one's just been doing some casual flying, but it is what it is. I'll have to look into it like you said.

AV8R72 09-16-2022 07:04 PM
Originally Posted by Flyboy68 (Post 3493743)
Same here, but did my fingerprints/drug screen/logbook review on August 3rd. Apparently the FAA or Mesa didn’t get my paperwork back to Envoy until last week.

Now I have to make the decision between staying at Mesa and upgrading, or moving to Envoy as a DEC.

Any advice from current Envoy employees would be appreciated. Gonna be commuting from Louisiana. Have about 4-5 direct flights daily.
you would definitely be Dallas based if you came to envoy. Pretty decent commute from anywhere in LA. The training department is pretty good. They’re getting guys with 121 class dates fairly quickly.

BigZ 09-16-2022 09:30 PM
Are cadets still a thing? As in, are the applicants still being accepted into the program?

Flyboy68 09-17-2022 07:23 AM
Originally Posted by AV8R72 (Post 3496351)
you would definitely be Dallas based if you came to envoy. Pretty decent commute from anywhere in LA. The training department is pretty good. They’re getting guys with 121 class dates fairly quickly.
Thanks for the reply. I’ve heard good things about Envoy’s training department and I think that’s the deciding factor. Mesa, not so much.


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