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flyer2710 11-19-2021 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3324412)
While all three are not equally trash, all three are trash.

Absolutely wrong! When was the last time you overnighted in ORD area?

TransWorld 11-19-2021 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3324412)
While all three are not equally trash, all three are trash.

I use a long time urban airport and a greenfield (1972 farm fields) as comparison. Generalization has exceptions.

STL, a long time airport, has a bunch of junky areas around the airport. While there are a few very nice hotels (Hilton, etc.) most of the nicer mid priced are non existent.

MCI, built in 1972 among the cows and corn fields has both very nice hotels and plenty of nicer mid priced.

pitchattitude 11-20-2021 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3325145)
I use a long time urban airport and a greenfield (1972 farm fields) as comparison. Generalization has exceptions.

STL, a long time airport, has a bunch of junky areas around the airport. While there are a few very nice hotels (Hilton, etc.) most of the nicer mid priced are non existent.

MCI, built in 1972 among the cows and corn fields has both very nice hotels and plenty of nicer mid priced.

The hotel Envoy uses at MCI is definitely not even close to “nice”.

TransWorld 11-20-2021 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3325215)
The hotel Envoy uses at MCI is definitely not even close to “nice”.

Compared to moderate priced hotels around STL airport, I would find it difficult to find a MCI hotel around the airport that would be worse.

pitchattitude 11-20-2021 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3325322)
Compared to moderate priced hotels around STL airport, I would find it difficult to find a MCI hotel around the airport that would be worse.

Given a choice between where Envoy stays in STL and MCI, I would take the STL hotel any day. Even taking location into consideration. At least the hotel in STL gives you three reasons to forget who you work for.

duck of death 11-20-2021 06:54 PM

Yeah MCI hotel is trash .

TransWorld 11-20-2021 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3325337)
Given a choice between where Envoy stays in STL and MCI, I would take the STL hotel any day. Even taking location into consideration. At least the hotel in STL gives you three reasons to forget who you work for.

Does Envoy have a committee to address accommodations? If MCI is that bad, sounds like something that needs to be worked. Especially since there are a bunch of medium priced hotels around the airport that are decent.

3400 11-20-2021 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3325515)
Does Envoy have a committee to address accommodations? If MCI is that bad, sounds like something that needs to be worked. Especially since there are a bunch of medium priced hotels around the airport that are decent.

MCI hotel isn’t great but it’s not atrocious, Republic stays there, AA FA’s stay there, I believe maybe someone else. The hotel itself is fine it’s just there’s NOTHING around.

We have a hotel committee, they’ve done a pretty solid job getting us out of the worst hotels and finding us gems like TUL and LIT. We just need to get out of IND and BUF.

dera 11-20-2021 09:56 PM

MCI overnight does suck, but the hotel has a bar and the BBQ next door is decent. ENY MEC has a very good hotel committee, and they are doing a good job on weeding out the real dumps like EVV. Without contractual hotel language, they have a tough job, and they are pretty amazing at what they do.

pitchattitude 11-21-2021 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by 3400 (Post 3325517)
MCI hotel isn’t great but it’s not atrocious, Republic stays there, AA FA’s stay there, I believe maybe someone else. The hotel itself is fine it’s just there’s NOTHING around.

We have a hotel committee, they’ve done a pretty solid job getting us out of the worst hotels and finding us gems like TUL and LIT. We just need to get out of IND and BUF.

TUL is definitely a gem. Same hotel as most of the big boys.

Agree the hotel committee has improved some of the worst hotels. But like anything, different people have different preferences. Some people care more about the hotel and some care more about the location and what may be around it or how close it is to the airport itself because they don’t want a long van ride.


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