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planejoe 04-15-2022 04:38 AM

Envoy Accelerating E145 Retirement
 
According to Aero Crew News:

BREAKING:
Envoy to accelerate the retirement of the E145 amid record-high pilot attrition. So far this year, 316 pilots (15% of the entire seniority list) left Envoy.
*80 of the 315 pilots who left Envoy flowed to American Airlines.
Source: Internal memo and internal email obtained by ACN.





Any update as to when it will be accelerated to? How does this affect Envoy going forward?

planejoe 04-18-2022 09:29 AM

Aerocrewnews deleted this after posting it so it may be unreliable. Disregard if so.

ENH017 04-18-2022 09:46 AM

15-20 145s gone by fall instead of end of year according to RW

pitchattitude 04-18-2022 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by ENH017 (Post 3407838)
15-20 145s gone by fall instead of end of year according to RW

Where are you getting that RW said 15-20? Last email just said “reductions will be taken out of the DFW base starting sometime this Fall.” Doesn’t say how many and nothing about BY end of year.

highfarfast 04-18-2022 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3408033)
Where are you getting that RW said 15-20? Last email just said “reductions will be taken out of the DFW base starting sometime this Fall.” Doesn’t say how many and nothing about BY end of year.

Starting this fall? We've already parked a few. What base they effected, I don't know.

pitchattitude 04-18-2022 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3408258)
Starting this fall? We've already parked a few. What base they effected, I don't know.

If I recall, the ones recently parked have been high time aircraft due for major inspections. There was an article a while back talking about some of the Eagle 145s being the highest time and cycles, which makes sense as AA was the launch customer for the plane.

My point from my earlier post was that the most recent RW email acknowledged they would be parking (additional) planes based on attrition but the post I quoted implied there was a specific number that would be parked by the end of the year. The ACN article was said to have briefly quoted an internal memo and email but was taken down. I’m just curious what the source was because IF it was, it was not something that was circulated.

DoesntFlare 04-18-2022 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3408295)
If I recall, the ones recently parked have been high time aircraft due for major inspections. There was an article a while back talking about some of the Eagle 145s being the highest time and cycles, which makes sense as AA was the launch customer for the plane.

My point from my earlier post was that the most recent RW email acknowledged they would be parking (additional) planes based on attrition but the post I quoted implied there was a specific number that would be parked by the end of the year. The ACN article was said to have briefly quoted an internal memo and email but was taken down. I’m just curious what the source was because IF it was, it was not something that was circulated.

RW sent an email early march that said 15-20 by the end of the year

3400 04-19-2022 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3408295)
which makes sense as AA was the launch customer for the plane.

*ExpressJet was the launch customer for the 145.

And AA has never operated the 145.

AB321Driver 04-19-2022 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by DoesntFlare (Post 3408334)
RW sent an email early march that said 15-20 by the end of the year


This is good news. Maybe "Its time" for 1 list. Make all the RJ's Group 1 pay and staple the Sen list.

pitchattitude 04-19-2022 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by 3400 (Post 3408465)
*ExpressJet was the launch customer for the 145.

And AA has never operated the 145.

AA purchased them, Eagle operated them. They were, I recall the launch for the 140, not the 145.

The 140s have already been parked, so that leaves 145s that Envoy and Piedmont are flying that are the high time/cycle airframes being parked.


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