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Old 04-15-2022 | 04:38 AM
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According to Aero Crew News:

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Envoy to accelerate the retirement of the E145 amid record-high pilot attrition. So far this year, 316 pilots (15% of the entire seniority list) left Envoy.
*80 of the 315 pilots who left Envoy flowed to American Airlines.
Source: Internal memo and internal email obtained by ACN.





Any update as to when it will be accelerated to? How does this affect Envoy going forward?
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Old 04-18-2022 | 09:29 AM
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Aerocrewnews deleted this after posting it so it may be unreliable. Disregard if so.
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Old 04-18-2022 | 09:46 AM
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15-20 145s gone by fall instead of end of year according to RW
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Old 04-18-2022 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ENH017
15-20 145s gone by fall instead of end of year according to RW
Where are you getting that RW said 15-20? Last email just said “reductions will be taken out of the DFW base starting sometime this Fall.” Doesn’t say how many and nothing about BY end of year.

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Old 04-18-2022 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
Where are you getting that RW said 15-20? Last email just said “reductions will be taken out of the DFW base starting sometime this Fall.” Doesn’t say how many and nothing about BY end of year.
Starting this fall? We've already parked a few. What base they effected, I don't know.
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
Starting this fall? We've already parked a few. What base they effected, I don't know.
If I recall, the ones recently parked have been high time aircraft due for major inspections. There was an article a while back talking about some of the Eagle 145s being the highest time and cycles, which makes sense as AA was the launch customer for the plane.

My point from my earlier post was that the most recent RW email acknowledged they would be parking (additional) planes based on attrition but the post I quoted implied there was a specific number that would be parked by the end of the year. The ACN article was said to have briefly quoted an internal memo and email but was taken down. I’m just curious what the source was because IF it was, it was not something that was circulated.
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Old 04-18-2022 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
If I recall, the ones recently parked have been high time aircraft due for major inspections. There was an article a while back talking about some of the Eagle 145s being the highest time and cycles, which makes sense as AA was the launch customer for the plane.

My point from my earlier post was that the most recent RW email acknowledged they would be parking (additional) planes based on attrition but the post I quoted implied there was a specific number that would be parked by the end of the year. The ACN article was said to have briefly quoted an internal memo and email but was taken down. I’m just curious what the source was because IF it was, it was not something that was circulated.
RW sent an email early march that said 15-20 by the end of the year
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Old 04-19-2022 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
which makes sense as AA was the launch customer for the plane.
*ExpressJet was the launch customer for the 145.

And AA has never operated the 145.
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Old 04-19-2022 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DoesntFlare
RW sent an email early march that said 15-20 by the end of the year

This is good news. Maybe "Its time" for 1 list. Make all the RJ's Group 1 pay and staple the Sen list.
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Originally Posted by 3400
*ExpressJet was the launch customer for the 145.

And AA has never operated the 145.
AA purchased them, Eagle operated them. They were, I recall the launch for the 140, not the 145.

The 140s have already been parked, so that leaves 145s that Envoy and Piedmont are flying that are the high time/cycle airframes being parked.
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