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Old 04-22-2022 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by cr700
For all the talk of a "Compass FO" coming here and posting their opinion, let's turn the tables and point on the sheer hypocrisy of the anti Envoy posters that are here on a regular basis. Some have previous positions within the union and left on their own accord. Why? Well, they've explained that ad nauseam here over and over. One thing that I think of immediately when these posts bashing American come up is, one word, jealousy. American is the largest airline in the world and right now, with the amount of retirements, your career is on a rocket trajectory. These poor guys and gals can only watch from the cockpit of their new "carrier" as a shiny AA 787 passes them as they sit idly by with a mechanical on their antiquated bygone era jet. Seriously, please post in your new forum. There is no reason to continue posting here.
You are certainly the pot to call the kettle black.

Bigger isn’t necessarily better.

You know what they say. Just like mopeds, they may be a lot of fun, but you wouldn’t want your friends to see you with one. Or maybe you wouldn’t know about that.

All that being said, different strokes for different folks. One man’s trash is another one’s treasure. But there are certainly risks and one in the hand beats two in the bush.

Is that enough clichés for one post?
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Old 04-22-2022 | 07:03 AM
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Update your AA app with your Delta CJO and leverage it into an OTS hire. If AA doesn’t take you then go ahead and get your head sized for that sweet hat.
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Old 04-22-2022 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Myfingershurt
Yeah, but unless you’re an executive, worrying about reality doesn’t change reality either. There’s a reason for the saying “ignorance is bliss.”
If you have two options on the table wouldn’t you like to look at relevant information concerning those making those offers? If you were buying stock, wouldn’t you want to know if the company were making money and what their prospects were? If you saw a humongous cell on the radar scope wouldn’t you maybe want to divert around it, even if the finer points of meteorology weren’t really your thing?

Sometimes ignorance ISN’T bliss. H€||, sometimes it can be fatal.
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Old 04-22-2022 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
If you have two options on the table wouldn’t you like to look at relevant information concerning those making those offers? If you were buying stock, wouldn’t you want to know if the company were making money and what their prospects were? If you saw a humongous cell on the radar scope wouldn’t you maybe want to divert around it, even if the finer points of meteorology weren’t really your thing?

Sometimes ignorance ISN’T bliss. H€||, sometimes it can be fatal.
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When people ask questions about something in a forum section related to that something and someone who is in no way, shape or form is related to that something keeps providing their invaluable insight - that's a pathology.
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Old 04-22-2022 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BigZ
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When people ask questions about something in a forum section related to that something and someone who is in no way, shape or form is related to that something keeps providing their invaluable insight - that's a pathology.
just don’t bring up queuing.

damn brits
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Old 04-23-2022 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cr700
For all the talk of a "Compass FO" coming here and posting their opinion, let's turn the tables and point on the sheer hypocrisy of the anti Envoy posters that are here on a regular basis. Some have previous positions within the union and left on their own accord. Why? Well, they've explained that ad nauseam here over and over. One thing that I think of immediately when these posts bashing American come up is, one word, jealousy. American is the largest airline in the world and right now, with the amount of retirements, your career is on a rocket trajectory. These poor guys and gals can only watch from the cockpit of their new "carrier" as a shiny AA 787 passes them as they sit idly by with a mechanical on their antiquated bygone era jet. Seriously, please post in your new forum. There is no reason to continue posting here.
Oh yeah? Like sitting in a clapped out 145 watching a shiny AA 787 roll by knowing that with your 8-10 year flow you’ll be behind the hiring wave and thus never be able to even hold 787 FO? Gotcha.
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Old 04-24-2022 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
If you have two options on the table wouldn’t you like to look at relevant information concerning those making those offers? If you were buying stock, wouldn’t you want to know if the company were making money and what their prospects were? If you saw a humongous cell on the radar scope wouldn’t you maybe want to divert around it, even if the finer points of meteorology weren’t really your thing?

Sometimes ignorance ISN’T bliss. H€||, sometimes it can be fatal.
What’s your angle here? Do you work at aa? Disgruntled investor, have a ton of stock shorted? Or are you just a standard airline pilot who’s insecure and has to show everyone how smart they are by breaking down corporate finance? We get it, you hate American, do you do any other tricks or is that it?
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Old 04-24-2022 | 05:16 AM
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It’s not exactly revolutionary to predict stiff financial headwinds and elevated risk of BK for AAG. That’s the consensus position of published market analysts.

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you’ll be behind the hiring wave and thus never be able to even hold 787 FO? Gotcha.
Pls no more truth bombs ._.
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Old 04-24-2022 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by BigZ
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When people ask questions about something in a forum section related to that something and someone who is in no way, shape or form is related to that something keeps providing their invaluable insight - that's a pathology.
No. People who reply to a pertinent comment with TL;DR, are showing THEIR pathology. If you don’t have the time or interest to read something, there is no chance you can give a meaningful reply to it. Nor should you expect people to take your comment seriously when you are posting on something you claim to have not even read.
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Old 04-24-2022 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by bababouey
What’s your angle here? Do you work at aa? Disgruntled investor, have a ton of stock shorted? Or are you just a standard airline pilot who’s insecure and has to show everyone how smart they are by breaking down corporate finance? We get it, you hate American, do you do any other tricks or is that it?
Ad hominem attacks don’t trump facts. I have nothing whatever against AA, and don’t even think their management did anything wrong. But the cards fell the wrong way with a number of factors beyond their control including the timing of their fleet renewal, NEO and MAX development, COVID, the rebound of flying, the shortage of regional CAs and upgrade eligible FOs, inflation, and a likely coming recession. They are too big to fail, but they would not be my choice of the best legacy to be a junior FO in for the next several years.

Which is the question the OP asked.

So why do you feel obligated to go to ad hominem attacks simply because I hold a different opinion than you? I blamed you for none of the things I quoted. I don’t even BLAME AA. That’s just the way the cards fell.
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