Originally Posted by Beech Dude (Post 3754970)

This right here. There is a reason they ordered more 175s and the pay rates hit the finish line end of '24. Once the 145s can't get clapped out anymore, PDT will fold into PSA, who will fold into ENY. The -700s will go next and Eagle will return with just -900s & 175s.

PSA opening PHL and DFW bases was no coincidence.

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Originally Posted by Beech Dude (Post 3754970)

This right here. There is a reason they ordered more 175s and the pay rates hit the finish line end of '24. Once the 145s can't get clapped out anymore, PDT will fold into PSA, who will fold into ENY. The -700s will go next and Eagle will return with just -900s & 175s.

PSA opening PHL and DFW bases was no coincidence.

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Originally Posted by Beech Dude (Post 3754970)

........and the pay rates hit the finish line end of '24.


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Originally Posted by Formerbuspilot (Post 3755660)

What exactly does this mean?

Originally Posted by BurnCycle (Post 3755818)

It means they are out of the loop and think the payrates are still set to expire at the end of the year.

Originally Posted by BurnCycle (Post 3755818)

It means they are out of the loop and think the payrates are still set to expire at the end of the year.

Originally Posted by Formerbuspilot (Post 3756024)

Are the current Capt pay rates permanent or were they meant to be temporary?

Originally Posted by TXMike (Post 3754377)

A follow up post about my thread..

I ended up taking the CJO with SWA(WN). Training was good at a top notch facility. 99% of the people were great, friendly, happy to be there. We were treated like adults with access to training equipment (CPTs) off hours to practice. We had every bit of support we needed to be successful. Do not sweat the "it's not AQP" (yet). They did not release us to the checking events (Oral) and (PC in the SIM) until we were ready. They also accomodated some classmates that got ill or had family issues back home. A couple had need for some additional training, they just slid back and connected with another group and did fine.

Part of me is a bit salty about AAG/AA freezing us WO guys out of mainline, but so far I am feeling like this is a good thing. The people just feel a lot happier and nicer across the organization. The gate agents, rampers, ops agents, FAs, etc. Everything just feels easier. I'm also getting 17-18 days off either directly in my bid or with a tiny bit of trip trading. The trip trade tools are awesome compared to the 1970s insanity at ENY.

I can not say this enough... Do NOT wait for "the FLOW".. All of the big hiring push will be long over by the time you flow. Envoy and the E175 were enjoyable. I miss the E175. BUT... NOTHING... NOTHING... NOTHING is more important than getting to your final airline senority list. If AA is your passion and final destination, the WO regionals are NOT for you... unless you are just bad at math..

UA and DAL have both hired a bunch of ENY guys. If that's what you want, rock on you will likely have a good experience at ENY.

Good luck and smooth flying!

Originally Posted by crj700 (Post 3756217)

I think the intention was for the rates to be temporary. However, other non AA regionals have matched the pay rates and made theirs permanent. If AAG tries to roll them back it puts the wholly owned at a competive disadvantage when it comes to pay. Just my opinion. YMMV

Originally Posted by Aepilot22 (Post 3754423)

what happens when you all get stapled to AA later this year, but you left to go to SWA? You will then be behind a lot more.