Currently sitting on a CJO I received in July. I'm still trying to build hours, but not at the rate I was before the interview. I have read stories of candidates getting the boot from Indoc for not having enough flying time between the interview and start of training. Does anybody know what kind of flying time they are looking for? Would be a real gut-punch of I show up then sent home because I just hadn't been flying enough. Thank you!

 

Are you talking recency or mins? If recency, I don't think anyone would care. If you had the recency to be hired, and the delay on class is due to the company that hired you, I don't see that being your issue. If it was a CJO based on you having minimums by x date, well, that's a different story.

 

I have the mins for R-ATP, so I'm good there. I've just heard of people getting kicked back because they hadn't, or barely flown, an airplane in the months preceding the class date.

 

Huh... never heard that one, but it is a CJO, I guess. Just seems like something they'd specify if it was a requirement. People have gone months - like 9-10 - in the past at certain regionals between indoc and sims and I'm pretty sure most of them didn't want/permit any outside flying. I'd probably ask the company - that is if they will respond.

 

Wouldn’t worry about that other than trying to study as much as you can if you can get a hold of some of the flows and profiles.

flying, a 402 or getting in a frasca is not super relevant training to how they’re gonna train you here. I went through the same predicament. Hadn’t flown in 13 years. I just did a little refresh on my own with 121 basics

 

I was told it was recommended, but not required. Hit mins and quit and sat for a few months. No one blinked twice when they looked at my logbook in Indoc. Kinda sucked not getting paid for a bit but chilling out at home with my family was a preferable alternative to my old job

 

Let me get this straight: You hadn't flown for 13 years, neither fixed wing nor rotorcraft, and managed to get hired during the hiring frenzy? Good for you man, that is like hitting the jackpot, I hope you are happy and surrounded by nice people. I got an interview invitation from AAL just a week after my application in 2023, but couldn't make it due to bad luck. I resigned from my previous position, moved to the U.S. just 10 days after Alaska Air incident and everything went south. As humble as I am, I thought I would get hired in a month considering my background and experience but I managed to get just one CJO out of dozens of apps and it has already been 9 months with no class date. I haven't flown for a year so right now it feels like I am drowning.

 

yeah, maybe 10 hours in a Cessna over the 13 year gap I had. But my situation was different from simply saying my timing was good. My timing was actually extremely bad in terms of graduating college nine months after 911. I was mid career in a 25 year Atc career, and because I had CRJ time from 2008, I was able to capitalize on a unique opportunity by leveraging previous 1:21 time and going back to the cockpit because they needed people that could upgrade quickly.

I feel bad for your situation, but why would you resign from a position before a confirmed class date with AA?
I put my two weeks notice in with the FAA, literally exactly 2 weeks before my start date with Envoy

 

Oh, your situation makes sense now. True, after 9/11 it was incomparably worse than how it is today. Yeah, it was stupid jumping off the ship thinking "man, I am ripped, I can swim for hours and definitely make it to the shore". My previous gig had 3 months' notice period and I couldn't rescind it once I resigned. Once I got my permanent residence, I thought of nothing except arriving this beautiful country as soon as possible and catching the hiring wave before it crashed. Probably having logged 9K hours, being a part 141 flight school graduate, holding engineering degree, ATP with PIC type, passenger, cargo, wet lease, ferry ops across 5 continents and a clean record boosted my confidence. I still think I would have been very competent and flying if BA didn't crap the bed. Anyway, past is past, right? Sorry in case it sounded like me bragging, just wanted to provide context. Hope we fly together one day. Fly safe and take care!